Once again, the Supreme Court is debating an abortion topic brought by a party who has no legal standing (which should have gotten the thing dismissed out of hand) and which case uses obsolete laws and strange logic. Since the SCOTUS is corrupt as Hell, I an not surprised they took the case, nor am I hopeful they will be at all in line with what Americans think about the topic.
Anti-abortionists arguments are generally religion-based, but nonetheless incoherent. The main claim is that life is sacred. Getting life to be defined as beginning at conception is part of their strategy, so the sacredness covers all of the bases they want covered. This ignores the fact that the Holy Bible does not state this and the people who wrote both the Old Testament and the New Testament, the Jews, have a definition of when life begins of the first breath of a born baby (reflecting their god’s use of the Breath of Life). No extrauterine fetus children at all exist in their worldview.
Someone went through the laborious process of counting up all of the people executed by the Bible’s god, either directly or by order to his hit squads in the Hebrews/Israelites. (A job the Israelis aren’t done with as they are racking up new totals of the dead as I write this.) But making reasonable assumptions regarding the populations of “cities” obliterated by Yahweh’s orders, a total of just over 2,000,000 deaths was arrived at. Considering estimates of the population of the earth at around 8000 BCE at 5 million, and that most of that number involved people far away in China and whatnot, Yahweh issued enough “hits” to wipe out the entire population of the Middle East.
And that total of 2 million plus does not include the Great Flood, in which Yahweh killed all but eight human beings, plus all of the plants and animals, so killing all in the Middle East is a drop in the bucket compared to that event.
Granted all of these killings are fictional, which raises another issue. How does one make an argument that “life is sacred” when the proponents of this god wrote fictional accounts of said god ordering the execution of close to 100% of the world’s human beings? Apparently they thought doing so reflected well on their god? WTF? “My god is a vengeful, murderous god; how about yours?”
The Supreme Court Justices make up stuff out of whole cloth when it suits their personal beliefs. Then they posture they are using historical and “original intent” reasons for their judgments. This is not new, people, they have been doing this since the inception of the court. Consider the Court’s decision in “Heller” which gave the right to bear arms to individuals. Allow me to quote from Thom Hartman’s “The Hidden History of Guns and the Second Amendment” (pp. 101-103):
“Scalia also argued, in the absence of any evidence whatsoever from the time of the amendment’s ratification, that the Second Amendment was passed to allow individuals to own guns for self-defense (which was the essence of the Heller case, as Washington, DC, had forbidden people from owning guns even for that reason), rather than a purely military/militia context.
Stevens et al., in their dissent (which, but for one Republican-appointed justice, would have been the majority decision), argued back,
The stand-alone phrase “bear arms” most naturally conveys a military meaning unless the addition of a qualifying phrase signals that a different meaning is intended. When, as in this case, there is no such qualifier, the most natural meaning is the military one; and, in the absence of any qualifier, it is all the more appropriate to look to the preamble to confirm the natural meaning of the text.
The Court’s [Scalia’s] objection is particularly puzzling in light of its own contention that the addition of the modifier “against” changes the meaning of “bear arms.”
They added, quoting a previous Supreme Court decision on the topic,
The phrase “bear Arms” also had at the time of the founding an idiomatic meaning that was significantly different from its natural meaning: to serve as a soldier, do military service, fight or to wage war. But it unequivocally bore that idiomatic meaning only when followed by the preposition “against.”. . .
When each word in the text is given full effect, the Amendment is most naturally read to secure to the people a right to use and possess arms in conjunction with service in a well-regulated militia. So far as appears, no more than that was contemplated by its drafters or is encompassed within its terms. . . .
Indeed, not a word in the constitutional text even arguably supports the Court’s overwrought and novel description of the Second Amendment as “elevat[ing] above all other interests” “the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.”
Even a previous Supreme Court chief justice, Nixon appointee Warren Berger, called the idea that the Second Amendment conferred an “individual right” to gun ownership a lie. Explicitly, he said the idea being promoted back when he was on the Court was “a fraud on the American public.”
In other words, Supreme Court Justices make up arguments out of whole cloth, so the merits of the cases are irrelevant, only the votes count for anything, especially in the case of the current court which has given up on following even their own precedents.
Look for the extension of their dirty business in this latest case brought by anti-abortionists (of no standing, with no real arguments, etc.).
Postscript Ironically if one accepts the Young Earth Creationist’s date for the creation of the Earth, then Yahweh ordered the killing or killed many, many, many times the population of the entire planet. According to estimates the population of the Earth near 4000 BCE was about 30 million people. According to the Bible, it was zero. Therefore, according to the Bible, their weren’t enough people alive for Yahweh to kill. Life is sacred, my ass.
Life is Sacred and Other Bushwa of Anti-Abortionists
Tags: anti-abortionists, conservatives, corruption, hypocrisy, lying Christians, politics, Republicans, Tax the Churches, tax the rich
Once again, the Supreme Court is debating an abortion topic brought by a party who has no legal standing (which should have gotten the thing dismissed out of hand) and which case uses obsolete laws and strange logic. Since the SCOTUS is corrupt as Hell, I an not surprised they took the case, nor am I hopeful they will be at all in line with what Americans think about the topic.
Anti-abortionists arguments are generally religion-based, but nonetheless incoherent. The main claim is that life is sacred. Getting life to be defined as beginning at conception is part of their strategy, so the sacredness covers all of the bases they want covered. This ignores the fact that the Holy Bible does not state this and the people who wrote both the Old Testament and the New Testament, the Jews, have a definition of when life begins of the first breath of a born baby (reflecting their god’s use of the Breath of Life). No extrauterine fetus children at all exist in their worldview.
Someone went through the laborious process of counting up all of the people executed by the Bible’s god, either directly or by order to his hit squads in the Hebrews/Israelites. (A job the Israelis aren’t done with as they are racking up new totals of the dead as I write this.) But making reasonable assumptions regarding the populations of “cities” obliterated by Yahweh’s orders, a total of just over 2,000,000 deaths was arrived at. Considering estimates of the population of the earth at around 8000 BCE at 5 million, and that most of that number involved people far away in China and whatnot, Yahweh issued enough “hits” to wipe out the entire population of the Middle East.
And that total of 2 million plus does not include the Great Flood, in which Yahweh killed all but eight human beings, plus all of the plants and animals, so killing all in the Middle East is a drop in the bucket compared to that event.
Granted all of these killings are fictional, which raises another issue. How does one make an argument that “life is sacred” when the proponents of this god wrote fictional accounts of said god ordering the execution of close to 100% of the world’s human beings? Apparently they thought doing so reflected well on their god? WTF? “My god is a vengeful, murderous god; how about yours?”
The Supreme Court Justices make up stuff out of whole cloth when it suits their personal beliefs. Then they posture they are using historical and “original intent” reasons for their judgments. This is not new, people, they have been doing this since the inception of the court. Consider the Court’s decision in “Heller” which gave the right to bear arms to individuals. Allow me to quote from Thom Hartman’s “The Hidden History of Guns and the Second Amendment” (pp. 101-103):
“Scalia also argued, in the absence of any evidence whatsoever from the time of the amendment’s ratification, that the Second Amendment was passed to allow individuals to own guns for self-defense (which was the essence of the Heller case, as Washington, DC, had forbidden people from owning guns even for that reason), rather than a purely military/militia context.
Stevens et al., in their dissent (which, but for one Republican-appointed justice, would have been the majority decision), argued back,
They added, quoting a previous Supreme Court decision on the topic,
Even a previous Supreme Court chief justice, Nixon appointee Warren Berger, called the idea that the Second Amendment conferred an “individual right” to gun ownership a lie. Explicitly, he said the idea being promoted back when he was on the Court was “a fraud on the American public.”
In other words, Supreme Court Justices make up arguments out of whole cloth, so the merits of the cases are irrelevant, only the votes count for anything, especially in the case of the current court which has given up on following even their own precedents.
Look for the extension of their dirty business in this latest case brought by anti-abortionists (of no standing, with no real arguments, etc.).
Postscript Ironically if one accepts the Young Earth Creationist’s date for the creation of the Earth, then Yahweh ordered the killing or killed many, many, many times the population of the entire planet. According to estimates the population of the Earth near 4000 BCE was about 30 million people. According to the Bible, it was zero. Therefore, according to the Bible, their weren’t enough people alive for Yahweh to kill. Life is sacred, my ass.