Uncommon Sense

January 15, 2022

Voter ID Laws

Filed under: Politics — Steve Ruis @ 11:34 am
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An author supporting voter ID used this story in support:

A young man who looks like a teenager walks into a liquor store and pulls a bottle of cheap whiskey off a shelf. He puts it down at the checkout counter and pulls out his wallet. The clerk at the counter looks at him skeptically. “Can I see your ID?” he asks.

“Yes,” says the young man, who instantly takes his driver’s license out of his wallet and hands it to the clerk. The driver’s license indicates to the clerk that the customer in front of him had turned 21 two months ago. He sells him the cheap whiskey.

Then another young man walks into the store. He grabs a bottle of very expensive champagne and puts it on the counter. Once again, the clerk asks the young man if he has an ID.

“No,” says the young man.

“Then I can’t sell you this champagne,” says the clerk.

“You have got to be kidding me,” says the young man. “I am 22 years old.”

“Then prove it,” says the clerk.

“I left my driver’s license at home,” says the young man.

“Then go get it,” says the clerk.

This is the classical argument based upon needing to show a driver’s license when pulled over by law enforcement, or an ID to buy liquor, or a medical ID card to get insurance coverage at a medical center. But let us reframe this a bit.

If the second person’s “buy” were covered by the same rules as voting in the states I have voted in, it would have gone this way:

Then another young man walks into the store. He grabs a bottle of very expensive champagne and puts it on the counter. The clerk asks for the buyers name, which he supplies, The clerk then consults a list or computer containing the list of people who have registered to buy alcoholic beverages. In that registration process, the person registering has to show that they meet the requirements to purchase alcohol.

If the clerk finds his name of the registration list, ka-ching, the purchase is authorized. If not, the clerk says “Sorry, I can’t find you on the list, so no deal.“

In some states, you can register on the date of the purchase (same day registration!), and if the clerk is certified, he can take the young man’s ID and fill out an online form and register him right there, as well as sell him the champagne.

Even the cop who pulls you over and asks for your ID will not haul you to jail if you say “Damn, I forgot my wallet!” They will consult their computer records, using the car’s driver’s license and if your name is attached to that vehicle, will look up whether you have a current license to drive it. If so, they can write you up a ticket for driving without your license, or they can let you go if they are feeling good that day.

I am not for Voter ID requirements for several reasons. For one it can be very difficult for people who do not drive to get such an ID. Some states have restricted the IDs they will accept as a form of voter suppression. Second, voter fraud is not a popular crime. Very, very few cases of voter fraud have been identified, a very tiny fraction of one percent of all votes cast, and most of those are mistakes rather than attempts to rig the election. Third, checking IDs will slow down the voting in person process even more than it has been. This would require additional voting polling places and poll workers and is another point at which voter suppression can take place. And fourth, there is no reason these proposals are being put form now other than to provide a particular political party with tools to suppress voting of people they do not like. There are no data supporting the need for Voter ID.

13 Comments »

  1. And if I could humbly add a “Fifth” reason these B.S. restrictions have only ONE intent: make voting so incredibly frustrating and time-consuming voters give up and walk away! And it is supposedly THESE American voters—who really don’t care to make their civic voice heard in the first place… that are allegedly committing all this widespread voter fraud!!!!!????

    Here’s a hardcore fact Republicans! Our nation’s and Texas’ already horrendous Voter Turnout Rates for General Elections the last five decades (in Texas*) was 68% in 1980, 50.5% in 1990, 51.8% in 2000, and then a measly despicable 38% in 2010! And Texas Republicans are OBSESSED with voter fraud… why, because their Blue Opponent’s voters have a long history of NOT SHOWING UP at the polls!!!???

    How stupid do they think we are? 😡

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    * – Source: https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_turnout_and_registration_in_Texas

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — January 15, 2022 @ 12:32 pm | Reply

    • More facts from The Texas Tribune…

      (Reported Oct. 19, 2020) Analysis: It’s harder to vote in Texas than in any other state

      Voting laws in Texas are the most restrictive in the country. And voter turnout here is among the lowest, too. Maybe those facts are related.

      Article: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/19/texas-voting-elections/

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — January 15, 2022 @ 12:32 pm | Reply

      • “Maybe those facts are related.” Gee, do you think? There has been a long running battle since the beginning of this country between the great unwashed masses and the elites. (I hate to call Repubs elites.) The founding fathers (all elites) shared their concerned about the “middling sort” in print!

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — January 15, 2022 @ 12:48 pm | Reply

    • Re “How stupid do they think we are?” They really don’t care. They just keep doing what has worked and what works in Texas is, well, different.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — January 15, 2022 @ 12:50 pm | Reply

      • HAH! So very different Steve that many Americans, and foreigners in other countries, think we are on another planet in another solar system! 😄🤦‍♂️

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        Comment by Professor Taboo — January 15, 2022 @ 2:52 pm | Reply

        • Well, they call Texas the “Lone Star State” and each Texan thinks that they are that star!

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — January 16, 2022 @ 11:13 am | Reply

  2. Here in Wisconsin they passed a law that only IDs issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles are valid forms of ID, along with a military ID or a US passport. Even if you don’t drive you still have to go to a DMV office to get a state ID card. If you don’t have a way to get to a DMV office such as not being able to get off work when the office is open, can’t drive to an office, can’t get public transportation to a DMV office, etc. you’re pretty much out of luck. Oh, I should add that they also tried to close a large number of the DMV offices in the state to “save money” at the same time. Dozens of counties would have been left with no DMV offices at all. There was such a firestorm of protest over that one that they had to back down.

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    Comment by grouchyfarmer — January 15, 2022 @ 10:37 pm | Reply

  3. As a young boy in America I recall being taught about the library, learning the Dewey Decimal System, filling out the application for a library card and then finally going on a field trip to the library to borrow my first book. All organised by the school. I can’t remember what grade I was in but it was very early on. Why not incorporate voting into some sort of high school program?

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    Comment by The Pink Agendist — January 17, 2022 @ 5:05 pm | Reply


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