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September 11, 2020

Doing the Time Warp

Filed under: Culture,Reason,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 11:07 am
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Consequences, there are consequences . . . to being a know it all.

Apparently the Christian god knows everything that has happened and will happen. This means this god already knows what you will be praying for next week, next year, and in ten years. Already knows.

Musical Interlude
Let’s do the Time Warp again
It’s so dreamy
Oh, fantasy free me
So you can’t see me
No, not at all . . .

So, if this god already has heard your prayers, why would it wait until you actually said them to respond? If your prayer sounds like a good idea, it should be implemented immediately, no? So, if the prayer was, say, to save a believer’s daughter from a deadly disease, the god could step in, prevent the child from getting the disease in the first place and thus avoid all of the pain, suffering, and anguish on the part of the child and parents . . . no?

Of course, if this god were interested in the credit for the saved little life, then waiting would make such a “miracle cure” more dramatic, no? But to whose benefit is that?

Plus, it is claimed that this god has a plan for each and every one of us. If it already knows what will come about, wouldn’t that have been worked into his plan already? This would mean that prayers would be totally useless/ineffective, which studies prove them to be, so maybe this is why. This god has already taken your prayers into account and the plan was formulated with those being known, so whatever you pray for will come up empty. What will happen has already been decided.

If, as part of your plan, you are to get deathly sick, go in hospital, almost die, but survive and recover your health. All of your Christian friends, however, will have been beavering away praying that you recover, see that you have recovered and shouts of “Praise God!” will rise up in church on Sunday. Of course, had you died, they would have said that their god had other plans for you. Either way god wins and this is less work for him and so is more likely than a working model of intercessionary prayer.

Why such a being would give a rat’s fart for what you think is also a mystery, along with why he would want you to love him. “God needs your love” says many things about that god and none of them are flattering.

But then, I guess being all-knowing is its own reward . . . and punishment. It sounds like a curse to me.

PS Bonus points for who recognizes the song the lyric was snatched from.

 

April 6, 2013

We Are All Atheists

Filed under: Philosophy,Politics,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 8:55 am
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You are probably expecting the argument that because each of us does not believe in some of the gods (Odin, Mithras, Ka, etc.) then we are all atheists to some degree. Nope, not this time. That argument is clever . . . and specious, so let’s not go there.

The God Log
Where I want to go is to challenge one and all to do what dieters do to see what their actual food intake is; they keep a food log. Every morsel of food they eat is logged/written down to show them exactly what their reality is. Almost everyone doing this exercise is shocked by the difference between what they actually eat and what they think they do.

So, I would like to challenge theists of all stripes to run a God Log for a week or more. In this log, when you are moved to do something motivated by your religion’s morality or dogma, you write an entry in your log.

Now, some of you will think “On Sunday mornings I go to church, I can log that.” No, you cannot . . . unless you are motivated by some aspect of your religious morality or dogma. If you go to church services out of habit/inertia, that doesn’t count. If you go because it is a social event you enjoy, then you cannot count that. If your minister or priest inspires you to actions appropriate to your religion, then that should be logged.

Get the idea?

I may be surprised at your outcome, but I think not. I think we all lead vastly secular lives. We get out of bed in the morning and then we do things associated with staying alive: we eat breakfast, we drive to work, we do our jobs, we drive home, we eat dinner, we watch TV, we go to bed. Or we get up, fast and meditate on our religions values, we go out into the community to positively affect the lives of strangers, we donate time at the homeless shelter, etc., etc. I imagine most of us fall in between those two patterns, but closer to the first than the second.

If you do your God Log and find out that 99% of your life is lived in a secular fashion, then there are some questions one may legitimately ask, such as how much impact does your religion have on your life, your decisions, etc.

One might argue that the decisions that draw upon one’s religious values do not come that often. One might, but then one has to ask how relevant those mores are. If you walk past a panhandler without giving alms to the poor, do you log that or do you even notice? If you receive a request for charity via mail or email, how do you respond? (Delete, delete, delete?)

Too many religious discussions are based on something other than our own reality. In the Middle East, people are acting on their religion on a daily basis. Why right now I see where Saudi men are buying young Syrian women in record numbers. The Syrian young women and girls are sacrificing for their families, who get the money, and the Saudi men get a young woman to cuddle with. That could be logged.

Such a log could tell you, really tell you, what role your religion plays in your life.

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