Uncommon Sense

January 8, 2022

You Can’t Make This Shit Up!

Filed under: Business,Culture,Politics,The News — Steve Ruis @ 12:56 pm
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In the news I read that “California deputy district attorney Kelly Ernby died from complications of COVID this week after years of opposing vaccine mandates.” Ah, another dose of irony that will have no effect on her “followers” as they are vaccinated against irony.

A quote of hers in the coverage drew my attention and needs a response, I think. Here it is:

“I don’t think that the government should be involved in mandating what vaccines people are taking,” she explained. “I think that’s a decision between doctors and their patients…. If the government is going to mandate vaccines, what else are they going to mandate?”

Ah, let me think . . . governmental mandates, mandates, ah, we are mandated to:
• drive on the right side of the road
• pay our taxes
• get a driver’s license to drive a car on public roads
• requiring drivers on public roads to possess insurance
• that doctors, lawyers, and hair dressers be certified
• file a federal tax return by April 15th
• that medicines be proven effective before being allowed on the market
• that cars meet minimal safety standards
• that carcinogenic chemicals not be added to food, cosmetics, etc.
• and . . . and . . .
I could go on (and on and on . . . ) but I think you get the point.

These anti-government idiots seem to think that our governments have been imposed upon us by Martian Communists instead of them being the mechanism by which we act in concert. Our government (name which one you want: state, local, school district, federal, etc.) is “us acting together.” And yes, we do not want “too much government” or “too little government” but just “the right amount of government.” I don’t see how a comment like “If the government is going to mandate vaccines, what else are they going to mandate?” helps us find the right amount.

Plus this idiot is, excuse me, was a California State legal official; she should know that children have to be vaccinated to be admitted to a public school. The “government” has been mandating such vaccinations for decades! Plus businesses can mandate that their employees get vaccinated to continue to be employed. So, businesses should have the power but not us acting collectively?

We have to stop electing idiots to public office and yes, I do know they have a constituency. But even that constituency should realize that having an idiot representing their interests is not to their advantage.

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143 Comments

  1. Take note that ALL of these researchers were double [fully] vaccinated and followed a strict protocol that didn’t protect anyone.

    31 Dec, 2021 15:03

    Remote Antarctic station hit with Covid-19 outbreak
    The Belgian scientific base has reported a cluster of cases despite its staff being fully vaccinated
    Researchers working at Belgium’s Princess Elisabeth Polar Station in Antarctica have contracted Covid-19, even though all personnel have been inoculated and any new arrival has to follow rigorous safety protocols.

    Two-thirds of the station’s staff of 25 have been infected with the coronavirus, Belgium’s polar secretariat confirmed to local media earlier this week. But how the virus could have reached the remote station, located some 220km (137 miles) from the Antarctic coast, remains a mystery.

    “All those present have received two doses of vaccine, and one person has even received a booster shot,” said Alain Hubert, the facility’s executive operator and head of security measures. All staff members also have to undergo a series of PCR tests on their long journey to the station.

    Those en route there take one PCR test in Belgium before leaving for South Africa and another five days after their arrival. They self-isolate for 10 days in Cape Town, then undergo two further tests: one before leaving for Antarctica and another five days after arriving at the station….

    https://on.rt.com/bogd

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    Comment by carolmalaysia — January 8, 2022 @ 1:10 pm

    • Antarctica stations are the perfect breeding ground for viruses. People noses are constantly running, the ventilation recirculates, etc. Vaccines do not prevent the disease so much as they lessen the severity of the symptoms, and lower the death rates and complication rates. People who take flu shots still get the flu, etc. just with less frequency and severity of symptoms.

      I think social distancing would be very difficult, and keeping surfaces free of viruses, too. Interesting case.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — January 8, 2022 @ 1:21 pm

      • Explain how COVID got into the station on Antarctica? It is the perfect breeding ground under ‘normal’ conditions but not under circumstances as rigorous as what was performed. The evidence points to “vaccines” not working.

        How about this article?

        16,000 Physicians and Scientists Agree Kids Shouldn’t Get COVID Vaccine
        COVID vaccines are “irreversible and potentially permanently damaging,” says Dr. Robert Malone, who explains why 16,000 physicians and medical scientists around the world signed a declaration publicly declaring healthy children should not be vaccinated for COVID-19.

        https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/physicians-scientists-kids-should-not-get-covid-vaccine/

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        Comment by carolmalaysia — January 8, 2022 @ 1:55 pm

        • You know what I say? DON’T get a vaccine if you don’t want one. If you contract COVID and (gasp!) die from its complications, then so be it. At least you stood up for your beliefs while you were alive and breathing. And THAT is what’s important. Right?

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          Comment by Nan — January 8, 2022 @ 3:31 pm

          • 01/05/22
            COVID NEWS WATCH
            1,090 Fully Vaccinated Indiana Residents Died of COVID

            The Indiana state health commissioner, who was boostered in November is a breakthrough case. She still says everyone should get vaccinated. [If something doesn’t work, keep doing it over and over again until it does.] 113,000 breakthrough cases isn’t enough to convince Kris Box that the “vaccines” DON’T work.

            [NWI Times] State health commissioner reinfected with COVID-19; Hoosiers urged to get vaccinated
            INDIANAPOLIS — Indiana State Health Commissioner Kris Box is recovering at home after becoming reinfected with COVID-19, the Indiana Department of Health announced Wednesday morning.

            “She also received a PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test, which will be sent for sequencing to determine whether she has been infected with the Omicron strain,” according to the IDOH.

            “Indiana and much of the nation are experiencing a surge in cases that is testing healthcare systems, due largely to the highly infectious Omicron variant,” the announcement says. “On Tuesday, the state reported 8,533 new cases and a seven-day positivity rate of 20.5 percent.”

            “Box, who is fully vaccinated and received a booster dose in November, is one of an estimated 113,000 Hoosiers to suffer a breakthrough case since Jan. 18, 2021,” the state says.

            Box tested positive through a rapid test on Tuesday morning after becoming symptomatic the night before, the state says….
            https://www.nwitimes.com/ne

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            Comment by carolmalaysia — January 8, 2022 @ 8:17 pm

            • Do you have another link to this NWI Times article? This one is invalid or broken, “Error 404 – Sorry, the page you’re looking for cannot be found.”

              Thanks

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              Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 1:57 pm

          • I agree with the sentiment . . . and unfortunately the unvaccinated provide a large breeding ground for additional virus mutations. If it weren’t like that, I’s be 100% in agreement. When CA passed a required motorcycle helmet law, which was criticized heavily by bikers, I argued that they should be allowed to ride without helmets, but that their motorcycle insurance would not cover personal injury because they were riding recklessly. “Freedoms” don’t come without consequences.

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            Comment by Steve Ruis — January 9, 2022 @ 10:26 am

            • You’re correct, of course, Steve. But people who don’t like “rules” prefer not to consider consequences. All they really care about is themselves and how life’s events affect them personally.

              And this is why we will probably never rid ourselves of COVID … and why we just might get another pseudo president (!).

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              Comment by Nan — January 9, 2022 @ 12:35 pm

              • Nan, in sports, and in my former sport football/soccer, those major headaches were called Prima-donnas. No amount of success much less reaching the upper-tiers and Pantheon of your sport can be achieved with 1-2 Prima-donnas on your team. Imagine what mediocrity or failure is like when 41% — 48% of your population (R) are (unified?) Prima-donnas!? BWAAAA! 🤣

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                Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 2:06 pm

            • Or responsibility NOT to endanger the greater public, hence going to prison for Criminal Negligence and Voluntary Manslaughter.

              But “Public Health & Safety” today seems to be an alien concept with far too many specific demographic-ed and political groups in America, huh? 🤦‍♂️

              (images and scenes from the 2006 film Idiocracy dance in my head!) 😄

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              Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 2:02 pm

          • Nan, if you suffer from any of the side-effects post-vaccine, then you can’t say that you were not warned.

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            Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 5, 2022 @ 9:16 pm

  2. Well, now she’s free!!!! Free from life. Good riddance. These people can’t make up their minds if they want to be anarchists or plutocratic fascists.

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    Comment by Gary Trujillo — January 8, 2022 @ 1:41 pm

  3. Steve, your timing of this blog-post couldn’t be more apropos, for myself, my Mom, and my sister here in COVID-19 (Omicron) ravaged Texas.*

    Just 15-mins ago our (Mom & I) neighbor across the way (a 78-yr old lady) whose front door is about 10-12 yards away, told me outside while cleaning our front porch that her daughter (a nurse at a doctor’s office, who also sees patients in the Regional hospital here, tested positive for COVID (Omicron) today and already feels some of the symptoms. Her two young children (5 and 7?) will likely test positive too as well as her husband. The kids more so because our incompetent, asinine Governor (Abbott) along with his political party & parents REFUSE to wear masks, mandate masks & social-distancing and far too many families refuse to get fully vaccinated or boostered! In fact, only 56% of Texans are fully vaxxed—that means 9.6 million Texans haven’t even received one jab!—and here in our County (Kerr) only 46% of residents are FULLY vaccinated! 🤦‍♂️

    It’s possible, only very slight tho, that our elderly neighbor—who hasn’t been wearing any mask anywhere for the last 3-4 months—may have given it to me when outside at her vehicle I was kindly helping her unload many bags & boxes of groceries up to her porch & front door. It’s a haul for that kind of task back-n-forth. FORTUNATELY, she is indeed fully vaxxed as well as her daughter (and boostered) so they won’t end up in an ICU bed for 20-40 days and bring home a $75,000–$100,000 hospital bill. She/They have that going for them. However, simply because too many morons around here refuse to wear masks and social-distance during this atrocious Omicron surge, our asinine Gov. won’t take public health & safety measures and mandates to stem and stop this huge, aggressive spike in cases cases, and some 9.6 million Texans refuse to be social team-players for loved ones and others… they’d rather continue to commit Criminal Negligence and Voluntary Manslaughter on others, including small, young children and their own family members!!! Steve, I am MORE than incensed by these self-consumed, self-centered criminals around here with no kind heart, compassion, or care for others!!! 😡🤬

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    * – More info: https://www.texastribune.org/2022/01/07/texas-covid-hospital-capacity/

    There is also on the TX Tribune website an informative article called How much has omicron increased COVID-19 cases in Texas schools? It warns, SHOWS how the Delta variant put 282,000 new cases of school children & staff across ALL state school districts into hospitals & quarantine. The Omicron variant WILL double or triple those numbers. The next 2-4 weeks in Texas are about to get real, REAL horribly bad, especially for frontline hospital-healthcare staff and no more ICU beds in the state for UNvaccinated idiots like your first commenter up above—and near all of the new cases/infections are people unvaccinated or with only (1) jab/dose, i.e. NOT fully vaxxed or boostered. Those are the simple, hard facts. Period.

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — January 8, 2022 @ 5:24 pm

    • A friend of mine who lives in Miami, had 4 tests done at an urgent care center. The first three were negative for COVID and the fourth one was positive. She was told to go to a nearby hospital and was put on the COVID floor. Her doctor told her it was fine that she didn’t get The Shot. She was treated for a severe case of the flu.

      She was in the hospital for 5 days. When she left the COVID floor had 2 other patients. She asked a nurse to get that information.

      The day after she left, the NYT had an article showing the number of COVID patients in a number of hospitals in S. Florida. I clicked on the name of her hospital and saw that the NYT reported 57 cases of COVID. So, the COVID floor went from 2 cases to 57 overnight? Either the NYT or the hospital was lying.
      Hospitals get more for treating “COVID” patients and from COVID deaths. Patients who die from any disease are sometimes labeled COVID deaths.

      My friend in Florida read through her hospital papers that were given to her when she left the hospital. The papers said that she had COVID/pneumonia and was prediabetic and morbidly obese. She is a size 6. She has never had any evidence of being prediabetic and nobody in her family has been diabetic.

      It’s good to know that now a size 6 is now considered morbidly obese.

      The newest data on vaxx injuries and deaths (the numbers continue to rise, but you’ll never see them on the news) Dr. Ealy has been to every state health department to track all the COVID breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

      In November, there were 1.4 million confirmed breakthrough cases in America. Within a month, there were 2.5 million — 78.8% increase in one month

      90,119 breakthrough hospitalizations — 60% increase in one month

      24,903 breakthrough deaths — 54.6% increase in one month

      So, what exactly are “breakthrough” cases?

      People that have received ALL their shots (deemed “fully vaccinated”) AND it’s been 14 days since their last test AND they haven’t had a positive PCR in the previous 45 days.

      There are lots of rules to keep numbers as low as possible for breakthrough cases.

      Not only does this type of information NEVER surface in the mainstream media, but, anyone who dares to reveal it is immediately censored, canceled, and deplatformed.

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — January 9, 2022 @ 7:17 am

      • Would you please provide the citations or links to the long established,, reputable medical research institutions providing your above numbers? For example:

        • Biological and Biomedical School of Science at Harvard Univ.
        • National Institutes of Health (USA)
        • Bioengineering School at Stanford Univ.
        • Max Plank Society & Institute (Germany)
        • Mayo Clinic (USA)
        • Biomedical Sciences at Oxford Univ. (UK)
        • Massachusetts Institute of Technology – MIT (USA)
        • Cambridge University School of Clinical Medicine (UK)
        • Columbia University School of Biomedical Engineering (USA)
        • School of Biomedical Engineering at John Hopkins Univ. (USA)

        These are just ten (10) schools, institutes of biomedical studies and research that I know of from the top of my head with very long-standing, globally recognized histories, some of which have Nobel Prize winning alums in the field of biomedical engineering and related fields.

        You are also welcome to provide citations/sources of your own here that verify your claims above.

        Thank you kindly carolmalaysia. 🙂

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        Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 10:32 am

  4. In Australia I have a couple of friends who will not vaccinate and one of them claimed out of the blue that vaccinations are causing people to catch the Omicron variant. I can only shake my head in frustration as I explained that his new knowledge came from anti vaxer conspiracy merchants and where the medical evidence is to support such lies. The guy in question is a very intelligent person and I find it so difficult to understand how they can believe such unadulterated crap.

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    Comment by sklyjd — January 8, 2022 @ 6:19 pm

  5. Solution: stop you primaries. That is how the idiots get in.

    Getting rid of Citizens United would also help… a lot.

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    Comment by john zande — January 8, 2022 @ 6:52 pm

    • D’accord. An election system that sieved the candidates would be much better than the current system . . . if . . . if people would be willing to vote that often.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — January 9, 2022 @ 10:10 am

    • John & Steve,

      Yesterday I watched an utterly enthralling webinar on American History TV on/from CSPAN-2.* On the 1.5 hour(?) show A Conversation with George W. Van Cleve & William Treanor. It was an indepth discussion about our current state & federal government’s inability the last several decades to make effective decisions and proper legislation for American citizens. This was in light of Dr. Van Cleve’s new blockbuster book:

      Making a New American Constitution

      William Treanor, dean of Georgetown University Law Center, and George W. Van Cleve, research professor in law and history at Seattle University School of Law, both debated and broke down in profound detail exploring “the flaws in the United States Constitution that obstruct reforms urgently needed for our national unity; proposes amendments; and shows that a new constitutional convention is essential to achieve them.” Sirs, I could not get enough of this critically essential understandings of what and how our individual civic learning has not only greatly diminished these last 3-5 decades in America, but what has to happen in order for our Constitutional democracy and nation to survive another two or three decades! The path we’re on now and business as usual apathy, WILL collapse this country into armed revolution and a Second American Civil War with no winners at the end!

      Steve, I strongly urge you to watch it and purchase Van Cleve’s outstanding book. Both are right up our alleys. 😉

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      * – Source: https://www.c-span.org/ahtv/

      P.S. I can provide more links to content above if needed.

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 11:59 am

      • Very cool, thanks, Prof!

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        Comment by john zande — January 9, 2022 @ 3:22 pm

      • Ordered the book just now and will begin the read. Thanks!

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — January 18, 2022 @ 12:59 pm

        • I’m into Chapter Two’s subsection, Small States Bias by the Constitution. I think you are going to like it Steve. 🙂

          You’ll probably finish the book before I can. Given my daily obligations helping Mom (severe dementia) and constant interruptions, I’m moving along pretty slow: only 4-5 pages per day. 🙄

          So… no spoilers buddy!!! 🤨 Lol

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          Comment by Professor Taboo — January 18, 2022 @ 2:47 pm

  6. Watch this VIDEO of a woman who says the media is burying information. She is speaking the truth of what happens.

    She posted a comment online and got 16,000 replies back. Both she and her husband suffered after getting a COVID shot. “We’re not the only ones who are going through this right now. People who are going through hell right now and speak up are being silenced. We’re being pushed aside and your annoying stories aren’t in the media. Censorship. They’re trying to bury these stories.”

    https://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/archive/2022/01/07/_1820_stabbing-shooting-pains_1920_-_1420_-one-woman_1920_s-covid-shot-story.aspx?cid_medium=etaf&cid=share

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    Comment by carolmalaysia — January 9, 2022 @ 7:37 am

    • First, see my above (below?) reply to you regarding your sources.

      Second, mass social-media attention does not equate to months (in a crisis) or many years of non-stop study, research, testing, retesting, more research over not just a large pool of voluntary patient-trials, BUT also the worldwide biomedical network of life-careered epidemiologists, virologists, cytologist, biochemists, etc, et al, or Peer-reviewed (globally) studies and findings. Furthermore, the history of biomedical engineering goes back a plethora of decades and upon the enormous amounts of medical knowledge accumulated and constantly updated. This link says “One Woman’s” story! On that logic, 8-billion other people on Earth also have their individual stories.

      By the way, everyone please read this Dr. Joseph Mercola’s credentials and background page (linked below)—both of which are NOT in epidemiology, virology, cytology, much less in mRNA engineering and technology. Also, what specific library of case-studies of 100,000–1,000,000 patients or more around the world combined studies does this Mercola guy, or any contributors, reference?

      https://www.mercola.com/forms/background.htm

      An additional tidbit about “Dr. Mercola” from his own background page from his personally owned website referenced here:

      Dr. Mercola has paved the way for revolutionary changes in the field of natural health.

      This hints of old Snake Oil salesmen touting credentials in Apothecary. 😄 Granted only a handful of treatments of this sort of pseudo-medicine are semi-effective with a handful of individuals. BUT as a whole under peer-reviewed and a long established base of successful, proven biomedical engineering… there is no comparison at all. Not even in the same league of expertise.

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 11:41 am

    • She is speaking the truth of what happens. — And exactly WHO determines that she was “speaking the truth”?? You? Others that “believe”?

      Further, It would be interesting to determine how many of those “16,000” were already in accord with what happened. People tend to read/listen to/agree with those that match their own personal beliefs.

      Sorry, but your arguments are impotent.

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      Comment by Nan — January 9, 2022 @ 12:25 pm

      • Nan, yes… that is my initial conclusion as well regarding carolmalaysia’s data-overload of uncited, unreferenced reputable sources—from a minimum of 5-6 INDEPENDENT entities with a metric score of unbiased, fact-based reporting. Otherwise, it’s all just overkill of fatuous mumbo-jumbo flatulence. 🙄

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        Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 2:13 pm

      • “People tend to read/listen to/agree with those that match their own personal beliefs.”
        Someday, my dear, you and all of the COVID vaccinated people will realize that you made a horrible mistake. The “news” that you read is giving out false information. Inside each “vaccine” are gems which will maim and eventually kill everyone. They were made for that reason and what they do will continue as long as people believe ‘their own personal beliefs’.
        “Do not get vaccinated” is way past what you can achieve.
        You will find out how bad this is. I do not rejoice in your decisions but I await the time that you can apologize for your beliefs. You will be amazed when that time comes on how you will approach me.
        I’m tired of reading what vaccinated people believe. You do not know the long term affects because they have never been studied. They were rushed out and you proceeded to believe what the mainstream media tells you. You gave up your legal rights to ever be compensated by the drug companies that are making trillions off of putting out false information.
        I do not enjoy reading any more from people who do not know what they are talking about. I will not comment further on this matter to anyone on this site.
        As I said earlier, you will ALL find out just how wrong you are. Time will be the test and you will ALL flunk.

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        Comment by carolmalaysia — January 10, 2022 @ 3:44 am

        • Where can we find this amazing information carolmalaysia? I also know a scientist guy who has the most amazing evidence in relationship to the shape of the Earth, want more?

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          Comment by sklyjd — January 10, 2022 @ 6:51 am

        • The “news” that you read is giving out false information. Oh that comment is so RICH!!! Especially considering the “news sources” you have provided.

          And this? …you proceeded to believe what the mainstream media tells you can SO easily be turned around to YOU believing what the quacks tell you.

          As for the vaccine causing my death, I’m already in the twilight years so if it’s not that, there are other things waiting in the wings. In any case, I sooo appreciate your sincere wishes when you write: I do not rejoice in your decisions.

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          Comment by Nan — January 10, 2022 @ 11:11 am

        • Someday, my dear, you and all of the COVID vaccinated people will realize that you made a horrible mistake.

          carolmalaysia, I’m beginning to have serious amounts of pity for you. It saddens me that you are refusing to dialogue with us—or probably anyone of us 206-million Americans FULLY vaccinated. I in fact, was fully vaccinated by April 10, 2021 then Boostered Nov. 16, 2021. Myself, my mother, and my sister are all doing exceptionally well… along with 206-million other Americans. 🙂

          What you are falsely arguing and NOT backing up with any reputable, well-established data or expert sources, only reflects your very weak, deluded position. I’m sorry, but you have NOT made a strong case at all. And in all likelihood you never will. YOU are simply believing whatever YOU like, prefer, etc, to make yourself FEEL good. Unfortunately, “feeling good” about yourself does not protect you one iota from this deadly virus that has claimed over 5.5-million lives and still counting. None of those deaths, except 4, have been proven to be directly linked to the either the Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J vaccines. Period.

          So… you are flat out wrong Ma’am cuz you have NOT made any case in backing up your personal claims. Random social-media sites you follow and consume do not even come CLOSE to the established repertoire of many Biomedical engineering institutions.

          Nevertheless, I wish you a safe avoidance—if that’s possible—from COVID-19 and all its current variants and to-come variants that UNvaccinated people keep perpetuating… to the world’s misery, pain, and lost loved ones.

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          Comment by Professor Taboo — January 10, 2022 @ 4:21 pm

        • Dunning, meet Kruger.

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          Comment by shelldigger — January 19, 2022 @ 3:36 pm

          • Yes, that is in play, but I have always believed that the burden of communication is on the person trying to communicate. If we haven’t done a good job of explaining, then we get nowhere blaming the recipients. Foe example, Donald Trump ran on being a Washington outsider and a stellar businessman. That he was a Washington outsider was obvious, but “stellar businessman?” Why did none of the coverage of that election focus in on the illusion that Mr. Trump was even a good businessman. Do we then blame the deplorables for voting for him? We didn’t make the case that Mr. Trump claims about being a great business man were trumped up (see the play on words, pause to be amazed) and the question asked: if his greatest strength is a lie, what does he really have to offer?

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            Comment by Steve Ruis — January 20, 2022 @ 9:47 am

            • Ohhhh … I’m AMAZED!!! 😮🙃

              That “greatest strength” you speak of has, unfortunately, worked out quite well for him. To this country’s detriment.

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              Comment by Nan — January 20, 2022 @ 10:36 am

            • I’m pretty sure there are reputable news outlets out there. I’m pretty sure you can Google just about anything you want information on. I’m pretty sure, that if anyone interested in researching a topic wanted to, they could. They could inform themselves.

              But they don’t. They like hearing the crap they are being told. They enjoy it.

              They enjoy thinking they are smart, well informed, they know everything about everything that’s going on. Nevermind they’ve been lied to, mislead, conned.

              How the hell are you supposed to communicate with that? Any attempt to do so, they dig in. They post irrelevant links to more of the B.S. they are being spoonfed. They scoff at you. They pretend to pity you. They are smarter than the scientists, the experts in their fields. They are supreme. Everything they learned from FB and Faux News is REAL!!!

              You have pretty good evidence of that right here in the comments.

              So please inform me, how the hell, do you communicate with that? You could bulldoze them with the facts and they’d laugh at you, thinking ‘you” are the uninformed moron.

              The stoopid has won Steve. It beat us with volume at the megaphone/microphone, it beat us with sheer numbers, it will finish us off by dragging us all down into the realm of stoopid, and flogging us with their vast experience at being stoopid.*

              If there’s way to communicate with them, I’m all ears.

              * My apologies to Mark Twain for butchering his great quote.

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              Comment by shelldigger — January 21, 2022 @ 10:06 am

              • EXCELLENT comment!!! 👍👏👏👏❗

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                Comment by Nan — January 21, 2022 @ 10:30 am

              • Actually, I wish Mr. Clemens were alive today. He had a way of saying things that people could accept, whether they agreed or not. And those people who filter their information, apply confirmation biases right and left, and are convinced they are right have been trained for years by religious agents to do just that. Throwing a few facts at them is hardly a successful approach. So too, “studies” and long diatribes will not get the point across but humor may just.

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                Comment by Steve Ruis — January 21, 2022 @ 10:31 am

                • Yes, religious training in three easy steps. Train them to:

                  1. Kowtow to everything you have been told.

                  2. Never ask questions.

                  3. Never question perceived authority.

                  That’s a huge training ground for stoopid.

                  I agree, Clemens was a good one, Carlin too.

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                  Comment by shelldigger — January 21, 2022 @ 11:21 am

    • carolmalaysia,

      Two questions for you please:

      1) — The U.S. has had between 837,000+ to 859,000+ premature deaths as a result of COVID-19 infections. Why didn’t their natural antibodies protect and save them?

      2) — Would you rather lose 859,000+ Americans or 5,505,000+ worldwide -OR- a mere 0.0018% of doses given to 187.2 million (as of July 2021) that died directly because of adverse reactions to the vaccine?* Again, 859,000+ Americans… OR… less than 4 Americans dead, from the Janssen vaccine?

      Furthermore, from Reuters.com Fact-Check page:

      Fact Check-VAERS data does not suggest COVID-19 vaccines killed 150,000 people, as analysis claims

      The article, published on Sept. 22 on a website known for spreading misinformation (here and here), claims scientists concluded through an “in-depth analysis” that “at least 150,000 Americans have been killed”.

      Social media users have also shared the blog and repeated its claims.

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      * – Source for Adverse Effects of COVID Vaccine: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html?

      BOSTON (12/20/2021) — Today the Massachusetts Department of Public Health released a review of breakthrough COVID-19 cases in vaccinated Massachusetts residents and found nearly 97% of all breakthrough cases in the Commonwealth have not resulted in hospitalization or death. Additionally, the review found unvaccinated residents are five times more likely to become infected than fully vaccinated residents (two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine or one dose of Johnson & Johnson) and unvaccinated residents are 31 times more likely to become infected than fully vaccinated residents who have received a booster.
      Massachusetts Department of Public Health, or Mass.gov

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — January 9, 2022 @ 3:04 pm

  7. More and more I see covid as a Darwin Award scenario. More and more, I care less and less for the foreseeable outcome of these dipsticks. Them or their loved ones, lying in a hospital bed, alone, left to evalute their own lack of concern/action, as they struggle to breathe, with the constant sound of the ventilator in the background.

    No one deserves to die like that.

    Many of them ignorant, uncaring of, and often violent, against those there trying to keep their dumb asses alive.

    No one in health care deserves this enormous case load, many of these cases preventable with a vaccine, thrust upon them.

    My concern is very much more for the latter, than the former. One of these is an example of heroism, the other an example of unbridled stupidity.

    A great example trolling here. An obvious graduate of FB, Twitter, Faux News, and whatever they “heard” from a source they have given far more credibility to, than anyone with an ounce of sense would dare to.

    It’s pathetic. If someone had told me 5 years ago how bloody freaking stupid society at large had become, I’d have laughed at them. I’m in no laughing mood these days on the subject. It’s worse than I could have ever imagined.

    I honestly don’t know how sustainable society is at this point, what with people drinking bleach and putting ivermectin up their butts. I need a drink…

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    Comment by shelldigger — January 19, 2022 @ 4:04 pm

    • You should read the guy’s comment over on Jim’s blog (TheCommonAtheist). You’ll probably need two (or more) drinks! S/he goes by the handle alphaandomega21.

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      Comment by Nan — January 19, 2022 @ 4:16 pm

      • Hell I’ve had two drinks already, here lol. I head to Jims I’ll be too inebriated to comment without drooling 😉

        I guess getting drooling drunk would put me in the company of the antivaxxers, antifacters, and anti common sensers. Everybody is anti everything reality these days. Living in some sort of fantasy bubble of their own creation, that they actually believe is real…

        I put that bottle down around here somewhere…

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        Comment by shelldigger — January 19, 2022 @ 4:29 pm

  8. Steve Ruis, people who want to impose vaccine mandates should shove those up their asses. I am not interested in hearing any person claim the right to bodily autonomy on abortion and yet throwing that out the door regarding vaccine-related issues or anything else.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 17, 2022 @ 4:13 pm

  9. Carol Malaysia, Steve Ruis, Nan, Shelldigger and Sklyjd, I am not anti-vaccine generally speaking. What irks me is how this pandemic has become politicized. I also find it to be laughable that “my body, my choice” is used to justify the legality of abortion and yet has no validity regarding vaccine refusal.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 11:56 am

    • “I also find it to be laughable that “my body, my choice” is used to justify the legality of abortion and yet has no validity regarding vaccine refusal.”

      GOOD comment.

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — March 26, 2022 @ 11:59 am

      • Carol Malaysia, I know that abortion is an inflammatory subject. What makes me mad is how people use that argument in one regard but throw it out the door in other regards.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 12:01 pm

      • No, not good comment–a false equivalence. pregnant women aren’t going around bragging about being able to get a deadly communicable disease and then pass it on to loved ones and neighbors. One situation is a private family matter and the other is a collective, public matter. Not equivalent at all.

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — March 26, 2022 @ 12:05 pm

        • Steve Ruis, I disagree. “My body, my choice” should apply as much to vaccine-related matters as all other medical issues, including abortion. Either apply the argument across-the-board or drop it in entirety.

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          Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 5, 2022 @ 9:13 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, I find abortion to be morally reprehensible. Having said that, I believe that it is absurd that anybody can defend abortion on the grounds of wanting their right of bodily autonomy to be respected out of one side of their mouth and yet want to mandate vaccines, which are also in violation of bodily autonomy out of the other.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 12:07 pm

        • I am in favor of women talking with their doctors and getting an abortion. “My body my choice.” The human spirit never dies. Fetuses that are aborted do not die any more than people permanently die at any age. They go to the fifth dimension which is commonly know as ‘heaven’. All have to go through a life review where they relive the times they caused pain to others.
          I am NOT in favor of COVID ‘fake vaccination” mandates. These are NOT vaccinations. The vaccinated can get ill, pass on the disease to others, shed their illness to the unvaccinated and die. Spike proteins, caused by The Shot, cause heart problems, neurological problems, increases in cancer, blood clots and the destruction of our innate immune systems. One doctor told about a baby that refused the milk of its mother. The milk was tested and was found to be 80% inorganic and filled with all sorts of weird unnatural materials. The mother had taken two SHOTS while pregnant. The baby, unfortunately wasn’t tested, but was put on mild substitutes for babies of women who can’t breast feed.
          Another doctor spoke of a patient who had a baby that was born with water on the brain. The baby’s legs didn’t work. The mother had been “vaccinated”.
          Anyone who dies within 2 weeks after getting “the Shot” is considered unvaccinated. Many die within those two weeks.

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          Comment by carolmalaysia — March 26, 2022 @ 12:53 pm

          • Individuals who think like you offer one or two “proofs” to validate your hairbrained reasoning … and totally ignore the TONS of research, statistics, reports, and real life testimonies of people who support the vaccine. SMH

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            Comment by Nan — March 26, 2022 @ 1:03 pm

            • Published March 4, 2022
              The link to the Seneff interview: https://rumble.com/vwhgls-dr.-stephanie-seneff-covid-19-vaccines-are-causing-neurodegenerative-diseas.html
              …………….
              STORY AT-A-GLANCE
              Dr. Robert Malone discusses COVID-19 shots’ effects on fertility and targeting children with social pressure and coercion to get jabbed
              In this nearly four-hour discussion with Candace Owens, Malone touches on the global narrative that’s intent on hunting down physicians and taking away their licenses for providing early COVID-19 treatment and how Bill Gates and Big Tech have succeeded in creating monopolies and gained control of information
              Malone describes three Department of Defense (DOD) whistleblowers who datamined the DOD health database, revealing disturbing increases in rates of miscarriage, cancer, neurological disease and stillbirths since COVID-19 jabs rolled out
              Malone is dedicated to speaking out because he wants to protect future generations; he’s concerned about the pandemic response’s effects on children, stating that public policies have had a particularly strong adverse effect on the young
              If people reconnect and come together once again for a real greater good, Malone believes we can avoid a Great Reset and instead experience a Great Awakening..

              Check out this story on Mercola.com: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/03/19/robert-malone-candace-owens-interview.aspx?cid_medium=etaf&cid=share
              …………………………….
              03/24/22

              COVID › VIEWS
              10 Lives Changed Forever by COVID Shots
              “These are real people with real stories to share, and the more people who see them, the more awareness can grow to provide those who survived with the help and medical care they deserve — while warning others of the potentially deadly consequences of COVID-19 injections.”

              https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/people-lives-changed-forever-covid-vaccines/

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              Comment by carolmalaysia — March 26, 2022 @ 1:11 pm

          • Carol Malaysia, you said that commenting on Diane Ravitch’s blog regarding vaccines was not worth it because it only results in personal attacks. I tried to explain to her, both in my own words and via many people’s stories in videos that her information is wrong. She claimed that it was misinformation. How the hell can that judgement be rendered if people are not there to determine that?

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            Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 2:19 pm

            • I continue to get Diana Ravitch’s blog but don’t comment on it very often these days.
              I see how people are treated when they disagree with Diane’s ‘knowledge’ regarding misinformation on facts about the COVID “vaccines”.
              Good for you if you still comment. I don’t like being constantly attacked. If one wants to ‘shoot themselves in the foot’ it doesn’t do much good to tell them that they shouldn’t have done that. Very few people will admit that they’ve done something wrong when it involves life and death decisions.
              I do, however, send some of her more blatant blog attacks on those who won’t get The Jab to people who understand that she is the one spreading misinformation.

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              Comment by carolmalaysia — March 26, 2022 @ 2:29 pm

              • Carol Malaysia, I find it to be absurd that Diane Ravitch treats people who suffer from all sorts of hell post-vaccine as liars, as well as people who share the stories of said people otherwise, however, clings to the delusion about so-called safe and effective vaccines. By the way, I don’t get my information from Alex Jones. My sources are people in their own words or the family members of said people.

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                Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 2:39 pm

    • Uh, well pregnant women aren’t walking around proud that they can host a deadly disease which they can then infect you with. An abortion is a family matter that should be dealt with within the family because there are no other societal impacts involved. Getting vaccinated from a communicable disease is not a family or personal matter. It is a collective matter. Using the same argument for the two situations is a false equivalency.

      The statistics show that, in the US, about 75% of those dying are 65 or older. Since I am one of those, maybe we old folks should decide whether we should all get vaccinated or not. When the polio vaccination became available, no one needed to be mandated, Instead we lined up at schools and community centers and got vaccinated. No one wanted to contract polio, nor did we want to transmit it to a loved one. You say you detest the politicization of the issue, so who the heck politicized it?

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — March 26, 2022 @ 12:03 pm

      • Steve, although I agree with and confirm all that you wrote, this guy simply doesn’t get it. He’s commented on a number of blogs with the same argument.

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        Comment by Nan — March 26, 2022 @ 12:05 pm

        • Ah, sparkly new toy, eh. I don’t have the energy playing whack-a-mole with such idiots, so I stopped responding. Thanks for the heads-up.

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — March 26, 2022 @ 12:08 pm

      • Steve Ruis, the government politicized it with all of these restrictions and lock downs. Apply some common sense here, sir.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — March 26, 2022 @ 12:08 pm

  10. Severe Hepatitis spreads among Children: Experimental Covid Vaccines Suspected

    sunnylanvn
    May 5
    Cases of acute hepatitis of ‘unknown origins’ in children have been reported in the UK as well as multiple EU nations
    Multiple cases of acute hepatitis in children have been reported in Europe over the past few days, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) said in a statement on Monday.

    The UK was the first to report the issue and had accumulated the most cases to date, the watchdog noted. All the cases in Britain were “presented clinically with severe acute hepatitis, with increased levels of liver enzymes,” while some of the patients also “reported gastrointestinal symptoms, including abdominal pain, diarrhea and vomiting in the preceding weeks.”
    “Following the reports of cases of acute hepatitis of unknown origin by the UK Health Security Agency, additional cases in children have been reported in Denmark, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Spain,” the ECDC stated.

    Live chat replay 1,606,412 views Streamed live on 26 Feb 2022 LIKES 42K An accepted and published Swedish study demonstrates for the first time the presence of Pfizer-BionTech vaccine DNA in the cell. It is reverse transcribed by LINE-1 proteins of the cells. //

    In addition, nine cases of acute hepatitis among children ages one to six have been found in the US state of Alabama, the watchdog said…

    https://www.rt.com/news/554178-europe-children-hepatitis-ecdc/

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    Comment by carolmalaysia — May 6, 2022 @ 6:01 am

  11. Steve Ruis, how is it a false equivalence to imply that there is a hypocrisy regarding implying support for abortion rights related to bodily autonomy under the guise of “my body, my choice” and yet not say,ing “My body, my choice” regarding refusing of vaccines that have been deadly to many people? Take the “My body, my choice”and apply it to every medical issue or just shut up about it entirely.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 6, 2022 @ 9:00 am

    • I am sure that this has been explained to you before and that you have kept asking it because you think it is a stumper of a question. It is not. Regarding a potentially lethal communicable disease, like COVID-19 and its variants, we collectively have a right to protect ourselves by demanding a vaccination of all individuals susceptible to the disease. This was an ordinary demand, begun to be worked out when a vaccine to thwart smallpox was first developed. And vaccines for measles, mumps, whooping cough, and many more diseases became ordinary demands for a child to be admitted to a public school. It only became controversial when politicians thought there was political capital pushing “personal freedom rights.” If you had the plague or Ebola your personal freedoms would shrink to nothing overnight. You would be isolated and quarantined as a danger to society, no ifs, ands, or buts.

      A pregnancy is not communicable. Whether a woman bears her fetus to term or not does not affect me. It is a purely personal matter. Consequently there is no “compelling state interest” in the matter, except those trying to push their religious beliefs upon the rest of us, which is unconstitutional.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — May 6, 2022 @ 10:25 am

      • Steve Ruis Quote: “Regarding a potentially lethal communicable disease, like COVID-19 and its variants, we collectively have a right to protect ourselves by demanding a vaccination of all individuals susceptible to the disease.”

        I’d agree with you if what you say is the truth. The major problem is that the ‘vaccines’ are killing people and permanently maiming them. The spike proteins, if the shot goes into a blood vessel, will go all over your body. Spike proteins destroy your immune system. Demanding that people line up to kill themselves isn’t a good solution.

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        Comment by carolmalaysia — May 6, 2022 @ 10:47 am

        • Again, the trope that you can’t seem to get away from …

          -IF- the vaccines were as dangerous as you claim, then why aren’t there numbers in the thousands –or even millions– of vaccinated people dying? Oh wait! The government is keeping all this under wraps. Right? Give it up, Carol. You aren’t ever going to win the battle here on Steve’s blog. Suggest you go somewhere where people will agree with your warnings — and then you can feel validated and relieved that you saved someone’s life!!

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          Comment by Nan — May 6, 2022 @ 11:20 am

          • Biden Administration Paid Media $1 Billion for Coronavirus Vaccine Propaganda
            The Biden administration paid nearly the entire corporate media, including so-called “conservative” media outlets, with taxpayer dollars to engage in a massive campaign to push only positive coverage about COVID shots while censoring any negative information, without disclosing it to their audiences. This is a serious breach of journalistic ethics…
            This information was revealed in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Blaze Media. This request uncovered that the HHS purchased advertising on TV, radio, in print, and on social media to build “vaccine confidence.” Media networks including ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox News, CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, New York Post, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, BuzzFeed News and hundreds of local newspapers and TV stations were collectively responsible for publishing countless articles and video segments promoting the COVID shots as effective and safe…

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            Comment by carolmalaysia — May 6, 2022 @ 5:06 pm

            • From MediaBias — Overall, we rate The Blaze strongly Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of conspiracy theories and numerous failed fact checks.

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              Comment by Nan — May 6, 2022 @ 5:44 pm

              • Got this from email a friend who lives in Belgium. He is HIV positive, got COVID and was cured by taking hydroxychloroquine. My friend doesn’t lie.
                …………………………………
                Everybody in the EU is sick or dying.
                It’s quite the sight.
                I have 13 year old math students telling me they can no longer play basketball because their joints hurt so bad when they try.

                Yesterday, I was at a wedding. Sat next to a lady who told me about all her hormonal deregulations. She now has lumps in her breasts. And she is a fit marathon running school teacher in her 40s.

                Just everywhere I go now, all I hear is vaccine this, vaccine that… myocarditis this, cancer that.

                And it’s only getting worse, but at least people are awake, and pissed. And they are not running to get their 4th dose.

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                Comment by carolmalaysia — May 7, 2022 @ 5:40 am

      • Steve Ruis, with all du respect, many cases of hospitalizations I have heard stories of from nurses indicate that most patients they have seen are those who have been fully vaccinated. There has also been active blackmail of nurses to get the vaccines or face loss of employment. If I was involved in a medical profession and blackmailed to get the vaccine or face loss of employment, I would rather leave the profession.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 6, 2022 @ 11:51 am

  12. Fully-Vaccinated Carnival Spirit Cruise Ship Hit With COVID-19 Outbreak
    by Dave Levine 15 hours ago >

    People who go on cruise ships these days are playing Russian Roulette with their lives.

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    Comment by carolmalaysia — May 6, 2022 @ 10:42 am

  13. Carol Malaysia, I have essentially given up on trying to reason with Diane Ravitch on this matter. I know that you are a Bernie Sanders advocate, however, the fact that you don’t buy into this safe and effective vaccine narrative is a good thing.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 8, 2022 @ 9:41 pm

  14. THE EXPOSE

    A study of official data published by the Government of Canada has found triple vaccinated individuals are now four times more likely to be infected with Covid-19, 2 times more likely to be hospitalised with Covid-19, and 2 times more likely to die of Covid-19 than unvaccinated individuals.

    One reason why this could be occurring is that the Covid-19 injections are causing Vaccine-Associated Enhanced Disease and antibody-dependent enhancement. But this would not explain the increased risk of infection.

    But there’s another condition that would explain the increased risk of infection as well as the increased risk of hospitalisation and death.

    And that condition is Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome…
    This data shows that the triple vaccinated have lost 75% of their ability to fight infection, 45% of their ability to prevent hospitalisation, and 50% of their ability to prevent their death compared to the immune system capability of the unvaccinated population.

    Both the infection and death data seem to suggest that the more doses you have, the more damage you do to your immune system.

    The real-world data does not lie.

    The Covid-19 injection makes recipients more likely to be infected with Covid-19, more likely to be hospitalised with Covid-19, and more likely to die of Covid-19.

    What’s up for debate is the reason why. Antibody-Dependent Enhancement would certainly explain the increased risk of hospitalisation and death, and Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome would certainly explain the reason for the increased risk in cases, hospitalisation and death.

    But there’s nothing to say we’re not witnessing both conditions unfold at the same time.

    Sources/References

    COVID-19 daily epidemiology update (10th April Figures)
    COVID-19 daily epidemiology update (20th March Figures)
    Confidential Pfizer Data – reissue_5.3.6 postmarketing experience.pdf
    Fact Sheet – What to Know About Secondary Immunodeficiency Disorders?

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    Comment by carolmalaysia — May 9, 2022 @ 5:07 am

  15. Carol Malaysia, here is the following dialogue I tried to have with Diane Ravitch: Me: “Diane Ravitch, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine have been very effective for people who are being treated for Covid-19. Just because the idiots like Brian Stelter, Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow, speak out against it, does not make what they say true. You accused me of violating your no conspiracy theories rule with my Alex Jones reference, which was clearly taken out-of-context, however, you get information from your own set of conspiracy theorists, e.g. Don Lemon, Brian Stelter and Rachel Maddow, so your point about no conspiracy theories is moot.” Diane Ravitch: “I get my information from the CDC. Where do you get your information? Even Trump is vaccinated. He didn’t take the horse deworming pills or the hydroxy.” I never disputed the fact that Ivermectin was used as a horse deworming agent. There are other medicinal benefits to it. Me: ” Many people have died or suffered permanent injury from these so-called safe and effective vaccines. Look up the information.” Diane Ravitch: “I’m not going to allow you to continue spouting nonsense and misinformation. People who are unvaccinated are at least 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and at least 10 times more likely to die than those who are vaccinated.” Really? The evidence says otherwise.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 9, 2022 @ 8:59 am

    • I’m surprised that Diane Ravitch allows your comments to be posted. You will not get anywhere with people who know everything about the ‘effectiveness and safety’ of the “vaccines”. Diane was one of the first to get The Jab.
      Look up some facts and post them, if you want to at least make a tiny bit of headway. [TINY!!] Look up Children’s Health Defense and Dr. Mercola’s sites. WordPress also has a blog by Sunny Lan. I believe she is from Vietnam but also writes a lot of facts about the “vaccines” in English. Some of her postings are in Vietnamese.

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — May 9, 2022 @ 12:29 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, she has clearly limited my comments. I just keep badgering her with them for my personal amusement.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 9, 2022 @ 12:45 pm

  16. Carol Malaysia, here are a few questions for you: 1: Do you have any familiarity with a neurological condition called Epilepsy or know anybody who does have Epilepsy? 2: Given all of the reported health problems post-vaccine, is it not libel or slander when people are smeared as liars for reporting these issues to VAERS by people who got the vaccine already? 3: When you made the observation that I provided a good comment about the hypocrisy of “my body, my choice” on abortion but not the vaccines, do you find it to be as absurd as I do that some people who make that argument can get away with it but essentially disregard that in other areas related to bodily autonomy?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 9, 2022 @ 1:54 pm

  17. Carol Malaysia, unless contraindicated by certain medical conditions, Budesonide, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloriquine, Quercetin, Artemisinin and N-Acetylcysteine, to name a few supplements, have significant benefits as preventatives for Covid-19. Something that Diane Ravitch mentioned, a detail that I did not dispute, was that Ivermectin was used as a horse deworming agent. She clearly did not get the memo that Ivermectin was successful at preventing, even treating Covid-19.

    Given the fact that humans can develop antibodies against many, if not all known diseases, I find it to be rather naive and ignorant when people jump on the bandwagon of getting every possible pharmaceutical they can find without foreknowledge of the risks. If someone had a bad case of Malaria and just stayed as far away from people as possible and took all necessary health supplements, why is that person worse off than people who immediately get vaccinated if Malaria can still affect them to some degree?

    Unless someone has been immunocompromised, why bother with most vaccines? You probably heard or read this, however, there are reports that indicate that flu shots are including ingredients that are also found in the Covid-19 so-called vaccines. You probably know about the Darwin Awards, something that people get if they died in the most idiotic of ways. Every person who gets the vaccines who die will ultimately become recipients of the Darwin Awards.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 9, 2022 @ 2:57 pm

  18. Carol Malaysia, due to my having Epilepsy, the 3 things I cannot safely take as preventatives are Hydroxychloriquine, Artemisinin and Budesonide. Just because I cannot safely take those does not mean that I want to deprive people who can benefit from taking them of the ability to get them. If the fact that many injuries and deaths post-vaccine don’t deter people from getting the jabs, as harsh as it sounds, they ultimately get the fates that they signed themselves up for. As a rule, I don’t have much inclination to beat a dead horse. Having said that, to quote Fletcher Reede in Liar Liar: “I’m getting what I deserve, I’m reaping what I sow,” something that will ultimately happen to everyone who gets the jabs, that is their problem.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 9, 2022 @ 4:02 pm

  19. Carol Malaysia, Steve Ruis, Nan, Shelldigger, Professor Taboo and Sklyjd, I can’t help but notice how the people that didn’t want to get the shot didn’t bash the people who did. And listen to the people who got the shot. People who want the shots should be perfectly free to get it and have their right to choose respected and people who don’t want it should be given that same level of courtesy. Vaccines usually take years to safely create. We do not know the long-term effects of the covid vaccine. Nor do we know the long-term effects of covid-19. The best thing we can do is try to stay healthy, and avoid anyone who might have had contact with the virus. I understand if older people get the vaccine, but what will happen to someone 20 years from now who are in their 20s and get it? We do not know the long-term effects of the vaccine.

    For people who claim to believe in the right to bodily autonomy, they don’t seem to have any respect for the rights of other people to bodily autonomy. My body, my choice? Either take that argument and apply it to all medical issues or just shut up about it. Simple as that. These hypocrites who want everything both ways destroy their credibility with their flip-flopping.

    Quercetin, Budesonide, Hydroxychloriquine, Ivermectin, N-Acetylcysteine, Artemisinin, healthy diets, good quality sleep, regular physical activity and reduced stress would be better for immune system health than taking so many medications. Just my thoughts.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 16, 2022 @ 10:44 am

  20. Carol Malaysia, Steve Ruis, Nan, Shelldigger, Professor Taboo and Sklyjd, I have no problem with people who want to take these so-called vaccines. Letting them become winners of the Darwin Awards by ultimately rremoving themselves from the gene pool may suck for them, however, they ultimately asked for that fate.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 16, 2022 @ 9:22 pm

  21. Carol Malaysia, Steve Ruis, Nan, Shelldigger, Professor Taboo and Sklyjd, at the risk of stating the obvious, all vaccines have sidde-effects. The problem is that some of the reports of adverse events seem to be ignored by the FDA, the CDC and VAERS. That being the case, it causes me to be dubious about the future vaccines. If “my body, my choice” is a valid argument for the legality of abortion, it should be equally as valid regarding refusal of vaccines. “I don’t want it because I don’t want it” as a reason for refusal of vaccines should be the only reason required to justify refusal of vaccines. Vaccine mandates are not only a violation of the U.S. Constitution, particularly the 1st, 4th, 5th, 10th, 13th and 14th Amendments, but also a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

    If the pro-vaccine crowd is so afraid of the anti-vaccine crowd, maybe the vaccines did not actually work at all. Why wear a mask if the vaccines provide the alleged protection that people claim it will?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 18, 2022 @ 11:22 am

    • Numerous medical experts have raised concerns over the heavy metals and toxins found in the vaxx and the statistics prove their possibly detrimental impact…

      Take a look at the CDC’s data on adverse reactions (as of April 22nd, 2022):
      27, 532 deaths
      152, 946 hospitalizations
      14, 096 heart attacks
      51, 163 left permanently disabled
      4,570 miscarriages

      This type of data is not being publicized at all by Big Pharma, the mainstream media, or the global government…

      Sadly, it may be only 1% of the true number (meaning you can multiply the above by 10 to get a more accurate number, based on low reporting).

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — May 18, 2022 @ 3:45 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, you said that you thought I made a good comment on the laughable nature of the double-standard of the “my body, my choice” argument in the context that I used the phraseology in. Even though you seem to agree with Diane Ravitch on the matter of disdain for Donald Trump, what is the reason you are inclined to agree with me more than her on the vaccine issue? Have you done your homework and that deterred you from wanting these so-called vaccines?

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 18, 2022 @ 4:47 pm

  22. Steve Ruis, Carol Malaysis, Nan, Professor Taboo, Sklyjd and John Zande, despite the media rhetoric, the btherapeutics work. Budesonide, Artemisinin, Hydroxychloriquine, Ivermectin and Quercetin have been very effective in treatment and/or prevention of Covid-19. Even though it has been used as a horse deworming agent, Ivermectin has worked prophylactically and been administered with great success.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 19, 2022 @ 2:04 pm

  23. Steve Ruis, Nan, Professor Taboo, Sklyjd and John Zande, there is a profound difference between wanting any vaccines and being mandated to get the vaccines. People on the Left can claim that there is no Constitutional right to refuse vaccines, which is true, however, there is no Constitutional basis for enforcement of vaccine mandates at the federal or state levels. Despite the misinformation and disinformation perpetuated by the media that claims that the vaccines are safe, even effective for that matter, there are many stories that indicate to the contrary. Bad vaccine experiences are never reported on mainstream media outlets.

    Why does everyone think you need a reason to not get the shot? It could be as simple as wanting or not wanting something. Nobody should have to justify why they refuse vaccines or any other medical procedure. How come “my body, my choice” can apply to aborting a living being but not when it comes to the vaccine? Shouldn’t it be my choice when it comes to the vaccine? “My body, my choice” should apply to all medical matters or removed from people’s vocabulary entirely. These people who decry bans on abortion as violating bodily autonomy and yet throw that argument out-the-door regarding vaccine refusal are hypocrites.

    “I don’t want it because I don’t want it” should be the only reason required to refuse any vaccine. These people who want to impose vaccines upon people by government mandate are unaware of the fact that nothing in the U.S. Constitution says anything about government having the authority to impose mandates of such a nature. To be fair, it does not say anything against it either. The fact that Progressives cherry-pick parts of the Constitution to justify imposition of vaccine mandates tells me that they are Constitutionally illiterate.

    How can anybody be foolish enough to hear the phraseology “safe and effective” regarding these so-called vaccines when multiple pieces of evidence would suggest otherwise? I don’t get medical advice from people who don’t have MD behind their names, however, if these medical experts all said the same thing regarding the dangers of the MRNA so-called vaccines, being that they were dangerous, I would believe them more than news anchors who know nothing about medicine.

    If the vaccines are so great, why do vaccine manufacturers have immunity from legal liability if something goes wrong? Why be afraid of a virtually nonexistent lawsuit if the vaccines are not dangerous? Can that be logically explained? Even if the vaccinated are allegedly protected, which they are not, they could get and transmit diseases without knowing it.

    Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government is authorized to vaccinate? Nowhere. People should stop saying that the Constitution says things that it says nothing about. There is nothing in the Constitution that says anything about a right to education, to health care, to free stuff or anything that Left-leaning types love to preach about. We don’t have the right to refuse a vaccine? Then people who want to have abortions should not have the right to demand that we pay for it.

    Many medical professionals are refusing the vaccines and are walking away from their chosen profession or are being fired. If medical professionals are refusing to get these so-called vaccines, that should be an indicator that these so-called vaccines are a problem.

    Why do places of employment have any right to demand that we give them what is by definition private medical information and why do venues that people frequent have the right to that information? They don’t and it is none of their damn business.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — May 20, 2022 @ 11:46 am

  24. Carol Malaysia, I understand and respect the fact that you are a Bernie Sanders advocate. What I am not surprised by is the fact that you don’t buy into this safe and effective vaccine b.s. being parroted by a lot of people. Quite honestly, I am not going to waste anymore of my time trying to convince Diane Ravitch that she was foolhardy to get the MRNA-based so-called vaccines. She has gotten meaner and meaner as time went on. For what reason I don’t have a clue.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — June 11, 2022 @ 12:29 pm

    • Ragnarsbhut: Can you give me an example of how Diane Ravitch is getting meaner and meaner? Some people experience a personality change after getting The Shot. A friend of mine told me about her ex-husband. He is HIV positive and has received The Shot and a booster. He used to be compassionate and caring but now is selfish and even tried to steal from her. She has seen a complete change of personality but he doesn’t recognize the change.

      I received this email this morning:
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      Claims that COVID-19 vaccines kill people who receive them
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      Content that recommends use of Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of COVID-19
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      Patrick Wood – It’s Now Crucial to Understand What We’re Up Against
      STORY AT-A-GLANCE

      It’s become absolutely crucial to understand what we’re up against, globally, and who’s responsible for the rising totalitarianism and their ultimate intention
      The COVID pandemic was a coup d’état by the technocratic cabal that is behind the global takeover agenda, referred to as The Great Reset
      The Great Reset was introduced by the World Economic Forum, which is tightly coupled to the United Nations and the World Health Organization. Their agenda is to implement a global type of totalitarianism based on technocratic and transhumanist ideologies. Part of that plan also includes reengineering and controlling all life forms, including humans
      While the outward expression of technocracy will appear as totalitarianism, the control center is not an individual. Rather than a single person ruling by the decree, technocracy relies on control through technology and algorithm. This is a very important difference. In short, there will be no individual to blame or hold accountable. The “dictator” is an algorithm
      Technocracy is an invented and unnatural form of economics that expresses itself as totalitarianism and requires social engineering to work. Technocrats in the past defined technocracy as the science of social engineering. Controlling the populace is crucial for the system to function

      Check out this story on Mercola.com: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/06/12/technocracy.aspx?cid_medium=etaf&cid=share

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — June 12, 2022 @ 5:45 am

      • Carol Malaysia, short of issuing ad hominems, Diane Ravitch basically called me a liar when I indicated that multiple deaths and injuries took place post-vaccination. I told her to look it up if she doubted it. You yourself said that the vaccines don’t work.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — June 12, 2022 @ 9:18 am

  25. Carol Malaysia, in the post that Diane Ravitch had where she expressed agreement with Bernie Sanders that there should not be a billionaire class, billionaire class being my choice of words, I responded to you and basically indicated that I did not advocate for full elimination of the billionaire class and separately asked Diane Ravitch as to her thoughts regarding Thomas Sowell. The attempt at dialogue started to go quite well. It ultimately deteriorated after a comment was made on my part about having no real opinion either way regarding the TVA, which was met with a biting and rather harsh response where she accused me of being unreasonable and uninformed. She said that people who wanted to go to college but cannot afford it should be able to go for free, which I responded to with the claim that I should have as much a right to a free cup of coffee by that logic. That comment was meant as sarcasm, but she clearly did not get it, as indicated by her claim that education is a basic human right, that a cup of coffee is not.

    In her post about the sad and unfree life of an anti-vaxxer, here are my exact words in my initial response: Me: “Diane Ravitch, Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine have been very effective for people who are being treated for Covid-19. Just because the idiots like Brian Stelter, Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow speak out against it, does not make what they say true. You accused me of violating your no conspiracy theories rule with my Alex Jones reference, which was clearly taken out-of-context, however, you get information from your own set of conspiracy theorists, e.g. Don Lemon, Brian Stelter, Rachel Maddow, so your point about no conspiracy theories is moot.” Diane Ravitch: “I get my information from the CDC. Where do you get your information? Even Trump is vaccinated. He didn’t take the horse deworming pills or the hydroxy.” She clearly did not read anything about the benefits of Ivermectin, nor any of the other therapeutics for that matter, as indicated by her response to me. Me: “Diane Ravitch, many people have died or suffered permanent injury from these so-called safe and effective vaccines. Look up the information.” Diane Ravitch: “I’m not going to allow you to continue spouting nonsense and misinformation. People who are unvaccinated are at least 10 times more likely to be hospitalized and at least 10 times more likely to die than those who are vaccinated.” Me: “Diane Ravitch, in the videos I shared, every bad vaccine-related story that was told came from people in their own words or from their family members. Look it up and stop paying attention to CNN, CNBC, CBS, MSNBC and other historically non-credible networks.” The FDA, the NIH, VAERS, the CDC, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, CBS all have no credibility. She gets and parrots information from noncredible sources and yet has the gall to accuse me of spouting nonsense and misinformation?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — June 21, 2022 @ 10:34 pm

    • It’s very unfortunate that Diane Ravitch, who has millions of readers, continues to believe that The Jab is saving lives. [I no longer want to call it “vaccines”. They aren’t.] VAERS only reports between 1-10% of the actual cases.
      Facts by VAERS, which come from the CDC, are never posted on any of their emails that are sent out regularly.

      June 17, 2022
      VAERS data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show 1,301,356 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID-19 vaccines, including 28,859 deaths and 238,412 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020, and June 10, 2022.

      06/21/22

      COVID › VIEWS
      CDC Admits It Never Monitored VAERS for COVID Vaccine Safety Signals
      In response to a Freedom of Information Request submitted by Children’s Health Defense, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last week admitted it never analyzed the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System for safety signals for COVID-19 vaccines.

      https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-vaers-covid-vaccine-safety/

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — June 22, 2022 @ 4:18 am

      • Carol Malaysia, have you read any specific comments where Diane Ravitch attacked people on the vaccine or virus issue or just what I mentioned to you?

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — June 22, 2022 @ 8:20 am

        • I don’t read many of the comments in articles that Diane writes telling about how awful it is that people aren’t being “vaccinated” when it is so good for you. Rarely, I do click to read the commenters that always agree with her. I’m familiar with most of their names.
          I remember many months ago, I think it was shortly after Diane got The Jab, that she had a woman submit a comment listing some doctors who were against The Shot. Diane said that she wouldn’t let her comment again.

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          Comment by carolmalaysia — June 22, 2022 @ 10:09 am

          • Carol Malaysia, I had issued a comment, which she had approved despite her rule about not attacking her personally or her blog where I basically and correctly, I might add, accused her of being a hypocrite when I pointed out that it seemed to me that she asked for and insisted on civility from me but let Lloyd Lofthouse off-the-hook for making a belligerent and uncivil comment to me. If you have any links to posts that cite these, I would be pleased to look at them.

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            Comment by ragnarsbhut — June 22, 2022 @ 11:37 am

  26. Steve Ruis, Nan, Professor Taboo, Sklyjd and John Zande, there is an argument from people on the Left that indicates that we don’t have a Constitutional right to refuse vaccines. In case these dumb fucks did not get the memo, there is no Constitutional right to impose vaccine mandates either, so what is their argument?

    Carol Malaysia, while it is true that there is a double-standard in the argument “my body, my choice,” I find it to be laughable when pro-abortion advocates claim that bans on abortion violate bodily autonomy and yet vaccine mandates do not. Can you cite the link where the exchange between Diane Ravitch and the person citing the doctors against the jab so I can look at it?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 7, 2022 @ 1:15 pm

    • “Can you cite the link where the exchange between Diane Ravitch and the person citing the doctors against the jab so I can look at it?”
      I’d LOVE to be able to show you that exchange but it was posted over a year ago [2 years ago is possible]. I have NO idea of where or how to find it. Sorry.

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — July 7, 2022 @ 1:30 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, I will try to find it for myself. In the search bar. Should I look for it under the phrase Coronavirus, vaccine or pandemic?

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 7, 2022 @ 2:13 pm

        • I have NO idea of how you could find this comment. It was one of many comments on one of her blog articles a LONG time in the past. I had thought of checking out what the doctors had to say, but didn’t ever follow up on it.
          The comment was a short paragraph long.

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          Comment by carolmalaysia — July 7, 2022 @ 2:38 pm

          • Carol Malaysia, I will try to narrow down the parameters of my search. If you had to offer an educated guess, would it have been close to the same time that she reported getting the vaccine on her blog?

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            Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 7, 2022 @ 2:42 pm

            • I think it was sometime right after she had received her Jab. I know she wasn’t happy that someone was putting out such information.

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              Comment by carolmalaysia — July 7, 2022 @ 2:44 pm

              • Carol Malaysia, I will keep looking. As far as my comments being limited, I just keep posting them for my amusement.

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                Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 7, 2022 @ 2:47 pm

  27. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, it is clear to me that you all have drank the pro-vaccine Kool-Aid. When you become eligible for the Darwin Awards by taking vaccines that are laced with toxic ingredients and suffer permanent injury, even death, the people who refused will sit back and look on those who succumbed to the narrative with disdain.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 9, 2022 @ 3:22 pm

    • Rag … give-it-up … give-it-up … give-it-up … give-it-up … give-it-up … give-it-up … (Sounds kinda’ like a broken record, doesn’t it?)

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      Comment by Nan — July 9, 2022 @ 5:07 pm

      • Nan, I may have mentioned you in my response, however, unless and until Steve Ruis asks me to stop commenting or blocks me, your opinion is irrelevant.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — July 9, 2022 @ 5:21 pm

  28. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, People are still getting sick despite being fully vaccinated. To me, it feels like we are not being told the truth about the risks associated with the vaccines. Regarding Malaria as an example of a virus, I have never heard or read for that matter stories about government trying to frce it upon us. Why are they doing that with the Covid vaccines, a condition with a 1% mortality rate as I understand it?

    I don’t think its stupid to not want to get a vaccine that came out absurdly fast or at least wanting to wait and see if there are any side effects that people who have already have the vaccine may experience before getting it. Being told that a relatively new and untested vaccine is safe and effective is absurd without proof to back up the claims.

    Insofar as I know, the data about the risks, safety and efficacy of these vaccines is still unknown. Given the fact that the mainstream media has not been giving a fair hearing to both sides on the issue, cases with a seemingly high success rate and a significant degree of problematic after-effects, even potentially lethal, why take anything that they say seriously?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 3, 2022 @ 3:11 pm

    • VAERS is information put out by the CDC. It only reports 1-10% of the deaths or adverse events from The Jab so the actual numbers are much higher.

      New VAERS Data as of July 22, 2022 (posted July 29, 2022)
      32,374 Total Deaths and 1,450,502 Total Adverse Events
      29,790 Pfizer/Moderna and 2,584 J&J Deaths
      1,357,940 Pfizer / Moderna and 92,562 J&J Adverse Events

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — August 3, 2022 @ 6:25 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, if that is the case, why does someone as intelligent as Diane Ravitch not see the evidence for what it is? Is it denial of the cold hard facts?

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 3, 2022 @ 6:54 pm

        • Diane Ravitch doesn’t get the facts. If you only read the mainstream media, it doesn’t give out this information. I get regular emails from the CDC and Medicare. All both of them ever say is that you must get “vaccinated” and get your boosters. Even though VAERS is information from the CDC it is NEVER published in their emails.
          Here is some good news.

          NorthShore University Health to pay $10.3 million in COVID-19 vaccine lawsuit
          AUGUST 1, 2022
          CHICAGO (CBS) — The NorthShore University Health System has agreed to pay $10.3 million in a COVID-19 vaccine lawsuit.

          More than a dozen health care workers sued the Evanston-based group after they were denied religious exemptions for vaccinations.

          In a statement, NorthShore said the settlement reflects its new vaccine policy at Edward-Elmhurst Health.

          The statement in full said, “We continue to support system-wide, evidence-based vaccination requirements for everyone who works at NorthShore – Edward-Elmhurst Health and thank our team members for helping to keep our communities safe. The settlement reflects implementation of a new system-wide vaccine policy which will include accommodation for team members with approved exemptions, including former employees who are rehired.”…

          https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/northshore-university-health-to-pay-10-3-million-in-covid-19-vaccine-lawsuit/

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          Comment by carolmalaysia — August 4, 2022 @ 4:34 am

          • Carol Malaysia, I am not surprised. When I said that Diane Ravitch has gotten meaner and meaner, I was referring to how she repeatedly attacked me when all I did was try to present her with all of the facts.

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            Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 4, 2022 @ 8:23 am

    • Granted that there is much confusion all around, but you seem to be confused about vaccines. They are not magic. They will not prevent you from getting their disease. At best they make it less likely and possible the symptoms less severe. Note Joe Biden getting COVID and then getting it again in less than a month. He was fully vaccinated. And no one is claiming that COVID is harmless (too many severe repercussions and deaths, a case of long COVID in my family. So, best practice right now is too avoid crowded venues, get vaccinated, and don’t be stupid as the best practice we can come up with for now.

      For too long people have thought doctors capable of miracle cures. Actually often as not they do not know the cause of your symptoms and are just treating your symptoms. I do not brook haughty doctors. Their track record demands humility from them. So, recognizing that they are just doing the best they can and often that is not very good, they are a better alternative than idiots suggesting you gargle with (or get injected with!) chlorine bleach or take horse medications to provide treatment of protection.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 8, 2022 @ 1:04 pm

      • Steve Ruis, if you will indulge my curiosities, here are 3 questions for you: 1: Even if unheard of, what would be a reasonable explanation for a successful mix and match of Moderna’s vaccine for the initial dose, however, Pfizer, to pick an exammple, was used for the second dose? 2: Even though it varies from person to person, have you ever heard stories of successful mixing and matching regarding a An initial dose of one Covid vaccine, Moderna as the example and Pfizer being the booster as a supplement? 3: Assuming no underlying health conditions otherwise, could a person’s tolerance to a Covid vaccine be the result of an already robust and healthy immune system?

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 8, 2022 @ 1:16 pm

    • Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, People are still getting sick despite being fully vaccinated. To me, it feels like we are not being told the truth about the risks associated with the vaccines. Regarding Malaria as an example of a virus, I have never heard or read for that matter stories about government trying to frce a Malaria vaccine upon us. Why are they doing that with the Covid vaccines, a condition with a 1% mortality rate as I understand it?

      I don’t think its stupid to not want to get a vaccine that came out absurdly fast or at least wanting to wait and see if there are any side effects that people who have already have the vaccine may experience before getting it. Being told that a relatively new and untested vaccine is safe and effective is absurd without proof to back up the claims.

      Insofar as I know, the data about the risks, safety and efficacy of these vaccines is still unknown. Given the fact that the mainstream media has not been giving a fair hearing to both sides on the issue, cases with a seemingly high success rate and a significant degree of problematic after-effects, even potentially lethal, why take anything that they say seriously?

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      Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 8, 2022 @ 5:19 pm

      • Since my name was included, I feel I can respond.

        You continue to harp on the vaccines and their safety. As I’ve said several times before, if you don’t feel comfortable getting one, don’t get it. If others want to get one, they can/will. The fact that millions have received a vaccine thus far and have fared well, it would seem LOGICAL to accept that they are comparatively SAFE. Certainly, some people do not respond — and may even die … but that’s because we’re all different. When push comes to shove, life itself is a gamble.

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        Comment by Nan — August 8, 2022 @ 5:57 pm

        • Nan, I agree with you. The problem is the short-sighted thinking of people on both sides of this issue.

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          Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 8, 2022 @ 6:29 pm

          • But you can’t change them, rag. They are who they are. Bottom line, all we can do is look out for ourselves … and our family. Everyone else has to make their own decisions and act on them … or not. The vaccines themselves have proven over all to be effective — contrary to what some want you to believe.

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            Comment by Nan — August 8, 2022 @ 6:34 pm

            • Nan, that is true. To be honest, the option of the Pfizer vaccine or the Johnson&Johnson vaccine had been those that I was willing to look into. The Moderna vaccine and the Astrazeneca vaccines were admittedly of concern to me due to some very questionable adverse events, events which were omitted from media reporting.

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              Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 8, 2022 @ 6:41 pm

              • The most recent VAERS data has been published:

                New VAERS Data as of July 29, 2022 (posted August 5, 2022)
                32,584 Total Deaths and 1,464,283 Total Adverse Events
                29,981 Pfizer/Moderna and 2,603 J&J Deaths
                1,371,474 Pfizer / Moderna and 92,809 J&J Adverse Event

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                Comment by carolmalaysia — August 10, 2022 @ 10:29 am

                • From the website:

                  VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem. Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event.

                  — VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event. A report to VAERS does not mean the vaccine caused the event.

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                  Comment by Nan — August 10, 2022 @ 10:42 am

                  • 08/05/22

                    COVID › NEWS
                    Nearly 30,000 Deaths Reported to VAERS, Including 17-Year-Old Who Died of Myocarditis 5 Months After Pfizer Shot
                    VAERS data released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show 1,371,474 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID-19 vaccines, including 29,981 deaths and 249,116 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020, and July 29, 2022.

                    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) today released new data showing a total of 1,371,474 reports of adverse events following COVID-19 vaccines were submitted between Dec. 14, 2020, and July 29, 2022, to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). That’s an increase of 13,534 adverse events over the previous week.

                    VAERS is the primary government-funded system for reporting adverse vaccine reactions in the U.S.

                    The data included a total of 29,981 reports of deaths — an increase of 191 over the previous week — and 249,116 serious injuries, including deaths, during the same time period — up 1,430 compared with the previous week.

                    Of the 29,981 reported deaths, 19,348 cases are attributed to Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, 7,981 cases to Moderna, 2,603 cases to Johnson & Johnson (J&J) and no cases yet reported for Novavax.

                    Excluding “foreign reports” to VAERS, 851,372 adverse events, including 13,894 deaths and 87,050 serious injuries, were reported in the U.S. between Dec. 14, 2020, and July 29, 2022.

                    Foreign reports are reports foreign subsidiaries send to U.S. vaccine manufacturers. Under U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulations, if a manufacturer is notified of a foreign case report that describes an event that is both serious and does not appear on the product’s labeling, the manufacturer is required to submit the report to VAERS.

                    Of the 13,894 U.S. deaths reported as of July 29, 7% occurred within 24 hours of vaccination, 15% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination and 54% occurred in people who experienced an onset of symptoms within 48 hours of being vaccinated…

                    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/17-year-old-died-myocarditis-pfizer-shot-vaers-data/

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                    Comment by carolmalaysia — August 10, 2022 @ 2:53 pm

                • Carol Malaysia, I am aware of the adverse events associated with each of them.

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                  Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 10, 2022 @ 11:10 am

  29. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, the H1N1, which was 10X more deadly than Covid, didn’t require mandatory vaccinations. What’s wrong with waiting a little bit to see the effects of this new vaccine? Nothing wrong with doing some due diligence first. The fact that we went from a number of days to flatten the curve to show other people proof of vaccination to be able to enter a venue is no different than turning into a gestapo like state.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 22, 2022 @ 11:56 am

  30. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, I am not interested in risking a cerebral hemmorhage or worse by getting a completely untested and unproven vaccine that does not really seem to protect people because the people who have gotten the vaccine are getting sick. I also hear people mainly on the Left saying that we do not have a Constitutional right to refuse vaccines. There is also no Constitutionality to vaccine mandates either, nor is there a Constitutional right to a taxpayer-funded abortion.

    What about these vaccine passports that have to be shown in order to enter a shop to give it patronage? What about people who are told that they have to be vaccinated or otherwise provide private medical information for the purpose of employment? Considering that such information is private by its very nature and definition, being required to disclose that is a violation of HIPAA.

    Unless medically contraindicated, why not give people Budesonide, Artemisinin, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, N-Acetylcysteine or Quercetin? Some people may be eligible for some of those items and not others because of underlying medical conditions. Because of my having Epilepsy, I am disqualified from taking Budesonide, Artemisinin and Hydroxychloroquine. Despite that, I am all for those being available to people who can benefit from them.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 22, 2022 @ 3:24 pm

    • The Pfizer got ‘verbal consent’ from the parents and administered the drug in a way that was ’sound from medical, scientific, regulatory and ethical standpoints”. [Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?]
      Why should we believe that Pfizer’s COVID-19 Jabs are now “safe and effective”?
      This article posted below is more than 15 years old.
      ………………………………………………
      Nigeria sues Pfizer for $7bn over ‘illegal’ tests on children
      Tue 5 Jun 2007
      The Nigerian government is suing the world’s largest drug manufacturer, Pfizer, for allegedly carrying out illegal trials of an anti-meningitis drug that killed or disabled children.

      Nigeria is demanding $7bn in damages from the US company for the families of children it says died or suffered serious side effects when the antibiotic Trovan was administered in the northern state of Kano during a meningitis outbreak in 1996. The Kano state government also has civil and criminal cases pending against Pfizer.

      The Nigerian authorities say that 200 children were part of the Trovan experiment without the approval of local regulatory authorities. They allege that as many as 11 died as a result of the treatment and others developed conditions including brain damage and paralysis.

      Trovan was approved in the US in 1997 for use by adults but not children. Two years later the US Food and Drug Administration warned that the drug could cause liver damage and it has since been discontinued.

      In court papers filed in Abuja yesterday, the government accuses Pfizer of conducting illegal tests on children…

      Pfizer has previously said that it obtained “verbal consent” from the parents of the affected children, and that the drugs were administered in a way that was “sound from medical, scientific, regulatory and ethical standpoints”…

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/05/health.healthandwellbeing1?CMP=share_btn_link

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — August 22, 2022 @ 8:42 pm

      • Carol Malaysia, I am not surprised by any of this.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — August 22, 2022 @ 8:52 pm

  31. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, per medical ethics, including the Hippocratic Oath, as well as the Nuremberg Code’s prohibition of human experimentation without their express consent, that should render the vaccine mandates as invalid. There is also nothing in the U.S. Constitution that expressly permits the establishment of a national vaccine mandate. People on the Left can argue that we do not have a Constitutional right to refuse vaccines, however, there is no Constitutional basis for vaccine mandates and they also argue that there is a Constitutional right to abortion, which there is not. Talking out of both sides of their moth is what they are good at.

    These idiots who say that the protected need to be protected from the unprotected who refused these so-called vaccines sure have a twisted view of reality. If they took the vaccines and are supposedly protected, that should logically indicate that they should not worry about the unvaccinated.

    I was not making a false equivalency with “my body, my choice” in my one comment. The point in that comment was how the hypocrisy essentially goes both ways in the minds of some people. To be technical, someone wanting or not wanting a vaccine has no relevance to the decision of another person. When it comes to abortion, that affects the person who makes the decision to have it but also affects the fetus, regardless of whether or not the fetus is viewed as a person.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 4, 2022 @ 2:17 pm

  32. Steve Ruis, Professor Taboo, John Zande, Nan, Gary Trujillo and Sklyjd, I have a hard time taking people seriously who say, “My body, my choice” on abortion but not refusal of vaccines or other medical procedures. Given the fact that this pandemic did not exist insofar as I know until Anthony Fauci was funding Gain-Of-Function Research in Wuhan, China with NIH money, that makes him just as guilty of starting and perpetuating this pandemic as the Chinese Communist Party.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 5, 2022 @ 2:47 pm

  33. Steve Ruis, I was not making equivalent the issue of abortion vs. refusal of vaccines in entirety. I was pointing out the fact that both sides want the “my body, my choice” argument both ways. Let people make their own decisions with the consult of a physician on either issue. What about people who claim that other people have to be vaccinated in order for their vaccines to work?

    Carol Malaysia, I am opposed to abortion on philosophical grounds, however, being more of a libertarian-type person, I believe that the government has no business in the matter and that it is really none of my business. The only expectation I have is that people who want them will no be trying to pick my pocket to pay for it.

    Nan, the way I see it, if I am wrong despite not being around people who have Covid, I can very easily change my mind on the matter of the vaccine. On the other hand, people who take the vaccines that suffer adverse effects cannot get a do over.

    Professor Taboo, if vaccines are mandated, what happens next: Our right to keep and bear arms will be revoked? Are we going to be deemed as enemies of the state (government) and locked up in jail until we bow to political pressure to get the vaccines? Are we going to be sent to Guantanamo Bay?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 7, 2022 @ 4:18 pm

  34. Steve Ruis, while I personally believe that the government is wrong to impose vaccine mandates, I do also respect the rights of individuals to choose to get vaccines or not. There is no false equivalency being made in the “my body, my choice” stance on abortion vs. refusal of vaccines. Both the Left and the Right are hypocrites on this issue.

    Professor Taboo, I can’t help but notice that the people that didn’t want to get the shot didn’t bash the people who did. And listen to the people who got the shot. Regardless of one’s vaccine status, how does that have any relevance to the vaccine status of other people? Either the vaccinated are protected or they are not.

    Carol Malaysia, before Anthony Fauci and the NIH started funding Gain-Of-Function research in Wuhan, China, where was this pandemic? It did not exist, so this makes Anthony Fauci and the NIH just as guilty of creating this pandemic as the Chinese Communist Party.

    Nan, I indicated that there was a significant level of short-sighted thinking from people on both sides of this issue. I have no desire to impose my views on anybody. Let people do what they will do and let that be the end of it.

    John Zande, We have immune systems that do the same thing as vaccines. Why not let the immune system do its job with a little help along the way? If someone got a bad case of Malaria and decided to self-isolate and take every immune boosting supplement not specifically contraindicated by a preexisting medical condition, why is that person who is able to acquire natural immunity a greater risk than a person who got it and transmitted it without a vaccine?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 11, 2022 @ 11:54 am

    • Let people do what they will do and >b>let that be the end of it. Suggest you follow your own advice. 🙂

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      Comment by Nan — September 11, 2022 @ 12:12 pm

      • Nan, I plan to. Unlike a lot of people, I am not a hypocrite on the “my body, my choice” concept. While I do object to vaccine mandates and abortion on philosophical grounds, as long as it is not affecting me directly, it is of no real relevance to me. Read my last statement in response to Steve Ruis.

        Carol Malaysia, I have never had a fear of needles due to those being required for drawing of blood for blood tests. I am never taking a flu shot ever again, nor any vaccines for any reason because they are being combined with Covid-related vaccines, so no thanks.

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        Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 11, 2022 @ 12:21 pm

  35. Steve Ruis, I hear people on the Left make the argument that we do not have the Constitutional right to refuse vaccines. Since there is no Constitutional authority to impose vaccine mandates either, is the argument not invalid by default?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 22, 2022 @ 12:33 pm

  36. Steve Ruis, having an abortion affects 2 parties, the woman with the unborn baby about to be aborted and the virus can affect one person in a group or all members in a group. My comment about it being laughable in how “my body, my choice” is used to justify the legality of abortion but not refusal of vaccines was meant to address the hypocrisy on both sides of the issue. Both sides are wrong on both topics. I personally am opposed to abortion but believe that government at any level should stay out of the issue. On the vaccines, the same holds true. My belief is that there should be no mandates but that every person who wants them should be free to get them and that those who don’t should not be forced.

    Nan, I am not accusing you of displaying short-sighted thinking, so I hope my comment to you did not come across that way. I just believe that any decisions that are medical, be it vaccine-related or otherwise related to health issues, should be between a person making that decision, that person’s family and that family’s MD. Nobody else has the right to impose that upon anybody else.

    Professor Taboo, I don’t owe anyone any explanations for refusal of vaccines, nor does anybody else. Why should we have to justify getting them or not getting them? As I see it, that really is nobody’s business outside of a person who gets it, that person’s family members and the family Doctor. People who get the jabs are still getting sick. If the level of illness is the same whether vaccinated or not, regardless of severity, the person is screwed either way.

    Carol Malaysia, I have never had a fear of needles. Being in a medical office obviously involves patient exposure to some of them. Pre-Covid, I was never anti-vaccine. Given the fact that Covid shots and flu shots are being combined, I am not getting anymore vaccines for any reason. People like Diane Ravitch complain about a pandemic of the unvaccinated and yet most cases of hospitalizations are those who are fully vaccinated. Given the fact that Robert W. Malone, the inventor of the MRNA technology indicated that multiple problems came about because of it abandoned it, that clearly indicates that its failure was obvious.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 23, 2022 @ 2:25 pm

    • Researchers in NINDS [National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke], one of the sections at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland, researched the ‘vaccinations’ for COVID and reached the conclusion that “a variety of neuropathic symptoms may manifest after SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations”…
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      Neuropathic symptoms with SARS-CoV-2 vaccination

      Farinaz Safavi, Lindsey Gustafson, Brian Walitt, Tanya Lehky, Sara Dehbashi, Amanda Wiebold, Yair Mina, Susan Shin, Baohan Pan, Michael Polydefkis, Anne Louise Oaklander, Avindra Nath

      Abstract
      Background and Objectives Various peripheral neuropathies, particularly those with sensory and autonomic dysfunction may occur during or shortly after acute COVID-19 illnesses. These appear most likely to reflect immune dysregulation. If similar manifestations can occur with the vaccination remains unknown.

      Government study reveals COVID jab problems
      Results In an observational study, we studied 23 patients (92% female; median age 40years) reporting new neuropathic symptoms beginning within 1 month after SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. 100% reported sensory symptoms comprising severe face and/or limb paresthesias, and 61% had orthostasis, heat intolerance and palpitations. Autonomic testing in 12 identified seven with reduced distal sweat production and six with positional orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. Among 16 with lower-leg skin biopsies, 31% had diagnostic/subthreshold epidermal neurite densities (≤5%), 13% were borderline (5.01-10%) and 19% showed abnormal axonal swelling. Biopsies from randomly selected five patients that were evaluated for immune complexes showed deposition of complement C4d in endothelial cells. Electrodiagnostic test results were normal in 94% (16/17). Together, 52% (12/23) of patients had objective evidence of small-fiber peripheral neuropathy. 58% patients (7/12) treated with oral corticosteroids had complete or near-complete improvement after two weeks as compared to 9% (1/11) of patients who did not receive immunotherapy having full recovery at 12 weeks. At 5-9 months post-symptom onset, 3 non-recovering patients received intravenous immunoglobulin with symptom resolution within two weeks.

      Conclusions
      This observational study suggests that a variety of neuropathic symptoms may manifest after SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations and in some patients might be an immune-mediated process.

      Competing Interest Statement
      The authors have declared no competing interest.

      Funding Statement
      National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke

      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.16.22274439v1

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      Comment by carolmalaysia — September 23, 2022 @ 2:47 pm

  37. Steve Ruis, having an abortion affects 2 parties, the woman and the unborn baby about to be aborted and the virus can affect one person in a group or all members in a group. My comment about it being laughable in how “my body, my choice” is used to justify the legality of abortion but not refusal of vaccines was meant to address the hypocrisy on both sides of the issue. Both sides are wrong on both topics. I personally am opposed to abortion but believe that government at any level should stay out of the issue. On the vaccines, the same holds true. My belief is that there should be no mandates but that every person who wants them should be free to get them and that those who don’t should not be forced.

    Nan, I am not accusing you of displaying short-sighted thinking, so I hope my comment to you did not come across that way. I just believe that any decisions that are medical, be it vaccine-related or otherwise related to health issues, should be between a person making that decision, that person’s family and that family’s MD. Nobody else has the right to impose that upon anybody else.

    Professor Taboo, I don’t owe anyone any explanations for refusal of vaccines, nor does anybody else. Why should we have to justify getting them or not getting them? As I see it, that really is nobody’s business outside of a person who gets it, that person’s family members and the family Doctor. People who get the jabs are still getting sick. If the level of illness is the same whether vaccinated or not, regardless of severity, the person is screwed either way.

    Carol Malaysia, I have never had a fear of needles. Being in a medical office obviously involves patient exposure to some of them. Pre-Covid, I was never anti-vaccine. Given the fact that Covid shots and flu shots are being combined, I am not getting anymore vaccines for any reason. People like Diane Ravitch complain about a pandemic of the unvaccinated and yet most cases of hospitalizations are those who are fully vaccinated. Given the fact that Robert W. Malone, the inventor of the MRNA technology indicated that multiple problems came about because of it abandoned it, that clearly indicates that its failure was obvious.

    John Zande, 98% are vaccinated and they are getting sick ,the 2% unvaccinated are fine and healthy. That means that this is a pandemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated. Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Rochelle Walensky, the FDA, the CDC and big pharma are the beneficiaries of this so-called pandemic. We have been lied to so many times that I am not surprised that people have gotten to the point where they still believe them. This so-called virus did not exist until Anthony Fauci started screwing around with Gain-Of-Function research. So all roads lead back to him. Assuming the vaccines are safe, why is the Emergency Use Authorization still in effect? Why all of the secrecy related to the vaccine data if the vaccines are safe?

    Gary Trujillo, why do we have to present vaccine passports to enter certain venues but requiring ID to vote is racist? Why do businesses require information about employee vaccination status or any other medical situation as a condition of employment? Are we going to be put in concentration camps over refusal of vaccines like what happened in Germany when the Nazis were running things? What about people who wear masks outdoors when nobody is in close enough proximity to be affected? What about these so-called Covid cases where patients are hospitalized where they are given Remdesivir and then put on ventilators? Hospital protocols and the vaccines kill more Covid-positive patients than Covid has, however, no objective news source would disclose that as the truth would hurt their ratings.

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  38. Steve Ruis, having an abortion affects 2 parties, the woman and the unborn baby about to be aborted and the virus can affect one person in a group or all members in a group. My comment about it being laughable in how “my body, my choice” is used to justify the legality of abortion but not refusal of vaccines was meant to address the hypocrisy on both sides of the issue. Both sides are wrong on both topics. I personally am opposed to abortion but believe that government at any level should stay out of the issue. On the vaccines, the same holds true. My belief is that there should be no mandates but that every person who wants them should be free to get them and that those who don’t should not be forced.

    Nan, I am not accusing you of displaying short-sighted thinking, so I hope my comment to you did not come across that way. I just believe that any decisions that are medical, be it vaccine-related or otherwise related to health issues, should be between a person making that decision, that person’s family and that family’s MD. Nobody else has the right to impose that upon anybody else. Despite the b.s. perpetuated by the people on the Left that we do not have a Constitutional right to refuse vaccines, there is also no Constitutional authority to impose vaccine mandates either. Forcing a medication upon people against their will could constitute a charge of medical assault and battery. Assuming that refusal of vaccine makes me unpopular, I really could care less.

    Professor Taboo, I don’t owe anyone any explanations for refusal of vaccines, nor does anybody else. I’m not an anti-vaxxer but a vaccine developed in 6-12months is giving me doubts. Why should we have to justify getting them or not getting them? As I see it, that really is nobody’s business outside of a person who gets it, that person’s family members and the family Doctor. People who get the jabs are still getting sick. If the level of illness is the same whether vaccinated or not, regardless of severity, the person is screwed either way. Trying to force any medical procedure is the most hideous form of tyranny and must be opposed by all means.

    Carol Malaysia, I have never had a fear of needles. Being in a medical office obviously involves patient exposure to some of them. Pre-Covid, I was never anti-vaccine. Given the fact that Covid shots and flu shots are being combined, I am not getting anymore vaccines for any reason. People like Diane Ravitch complain about a pandemic of the unvaccinated and yet most cases of hospitalizations are those who are fully vaccinated. Given the fact that Robert W. Malone, the inventor of the MRNA technology indicated that multiple problems came about because of it abandoned it, that clearly indicates that its failure was obvious. How many people who are hospitalized who supposedly have Covid when it could be something else? Covid did not originate in nature. The pandemic was cooked up in a lab and that lab was funded with NIH money. Who was in charge? Anthony Fauci?

    John Zande, 98% are vaccinated and they are getting sick ,the 2% unvaccinated are fine and healthy. That means that this is a pandemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated. Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Rochelle Walensky, the FDA, the CDC and big pharma are the beneficiaries of this so-called pandemic. We have been lied to so many times that I am not surprised that people have gotten to the point where they still believe them. This so-called virus did not exist until Anthony Fauci started screwing around with Gain-Of-Function research. So all roads lead back to him. Assuming the vaccines are safe, why is the Emergency Use Authorization still in effect? Why all of the secrecy related to the vaccine data if the vaccines are safe?

    Gary Trujillo, why do we have to present vaccine passports to enter certain venues but requiring ID to vote is racist? Why do businesses require information about employee vaccination status or any other medical situation as a condition of employment? Are we going to be put in concentration camps over refusal of vaccines like what happened in Germany when the Nazis were running things? What about people who wear masks outdoors when nobody is in close enough proximity to be affected? What about these so-called Covid cases where patients are hospitalized where they are given Remdesivir and then put on ventilators? Hospital protocols and the vaccines kill more Covid-positive patients than Covid has, however, any news source that is clearly biased and not objective would not disclose that as the truth would hurt their ratings.

    Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca, the Johnson&Johnson vaccines and hospital protocols have caused a lot of injury and death for people. Even those who have survived the experiences have reported hellish experiences in their own words. Those who have died, which are too many, are not able to tell their stories.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 25, 2022 @ 2:29 pm

  39. Carol Malaysia, I don’t necessarily object to abortion being legal or if it involves protection of the life of the Mother or in the case of rape that results in unwanted pregnancy. What I have a problem with is the hypocrisy of the “my body, my choice” argument from people on both the issue of abortion and the issue of vaccines. What about these venues that claim to require proof of vaccination from patrons? Considering that such information is private, it really is nobody’s business but the person who got the vaccine, that person’s family and that person’s MD.

    Nan, while the charge of hypocrisy is serious, the fact that both sides on the issues of abortion vs. vaccines want it both ways is disingenuous. Personally, I have objections to abortion on philosophical grounds, however, I believe that it should be legal. As long as I am not being asked to pay for it, it is none of my business.

    Steve Ruis, all vaccines and medications take years to safely create. Considering the fact that the vaccines were rushed and not given adequate testing time, why play the medical equivalent of Russian Roulette by getting a vaccine for a cooked up virus that has a low mortality rating anyway assuming no preexisting comorbidities? I don’t think its stupid to not want to get a vaccine that came out absurdly fast or at least wanting to wait and see if there are any side effects that people who have already have the vaccine may experience before getting it.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 28, 2022 @ 2:37 pm

  40. Steve Ruis, there is a significant difference between being anti-vaccine and being anti-vaccine mandate. There is a difference between taking vaccines that are available under Emergency Use Authorization and vaccines that are given adequate testing time. Because of my having Epilepsy, I am not willing to make a gamble with my health or very life by getting a vaccine that could result in neurological damage, maybe even death, to satisfy other people’s paranoia about the persistence of the pandemic.

    Carol Malaysia, I have heard devastating stories of post-vaccine injuries and deaths. One story of a vaccine-related death was how a Father told the story of the death of his 16 y/o son 5 days after the Pfizer vaccine. Maybe the son exerted too much energy too soon and death was an unanticipated effect or the Pfizer vaccine was what killed the son. A few other stories of adverse vaccine-related issues were among people who were fortunate enough to be among the living.

    Nan, if vaccine manufacturers would show us what is in the vaccines, maybe more people would be less skeptical. As I indicated, there is a lot of short-sighted thinking from people on both sides of the vaccine matter. When medicine is politicized, as has been an issue with this pandemic, that sets the stage for a lack of confidence in politicians and MDs who claim that vaccines are safe. Forcing anything medical upon people against their will would only result in charges of assault and battery.

    Professor Taboo, I really don’t care who gets the vaccine and who refuses to get it. What perplexes me is how natural immunity is ignored by the media and major pharmaceutical companies. Regarding the people being sneered at and mocked as anti-vaccine, that is disingenuous, mainly because there is a difference between being anti-vaccine and anti-Covid vaccine. What about vaccine passports that are being required to enter a place of business? When last I checked, a person’s private medical information was just that by definition.

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — September 30, 2022 @ 1:49 pm

  41. Professor Taboo, vaccines made available under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) seems to be by definition for just that purpose. It makes no sense to have relatively new vaccines made available to the public with no prior testing and by extension no safety data so as to determine risks or benefits. Playing the medical equivalent of Russian Roulette basically fucks over those on the end of the short straw, so no thanks.

    Nan, the same people bashing on “anti-vaxxers” are the same people saying “my body my choice.” Even if some people wanted the vaccines, that is on them to decide. Refusing vaccines only affects people doing it. Aborting a baby affects 2 people, the Mother who has a say and the baby, the person who has no decision making capacity. Forcing a vaccine or any other thing that is related to medicine or a medical procedure upon people would be grounds for charges of assault and battery.

    Carol Malaysia, everyone has the right to choose while others must learn to live and let others live. Even if some people get these so-called vaccines, I fail to see how they are not allegedly protected by getting them. Why are the vaccinated so afraid compared to many unvaccinated people? People are still getting sick and are still dying. As harsh as it sounds, I hope that all people who suffer adverse effects from the vaccines get the fact that it was a mistake rubbed in their faces.

    Gary Trujillo, all of these people who denounce the therapeutics as ineffective have been fed misinformation and disinformation by the media. The therapeutics What about people who wear masks despite being vaccinated? All that does is recirculate air that they already breathe back into their respiratory system and probably would only make them sicker than a virus with a 1% mortality rate even without a vaccine.

    Steve Ruis, legally speaking the vaccine is still experimental. I find it to be absurd that businesses require that people be vaccinated or otherwise provide medical information as a condition of employment. That is a violation of HIPAA. All of the reports of people dying from Covid who are probably not vaccinated are probably given Remdesivir and then put on ventilators. Despite the disinformation being spewed by the media, most cases of hospitalizations are among fully vaccinated patients.

    Sklyjd, unless we have politicians who went to medical school before being involved in politics, such as Rand Paul, no politician who has no medical degree is qualified to give medical advice to anybody. To be honest, I also find it to be laughable that anybody can take medical advice from elected leaders who have never spent a day in medical school. What about these passports that are required in order to enter certain venues?

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    Comment by ragnarsbhut — October 11, 2022 @ 3:05 pm

  42. WordPress refuses to let this video be posted. It shows British people telling about the horrors they went through after getting The Jab. Perhaps I can send the title and you can find the video. [??]
    Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion (2022) | Oracle Films | News Uncut
    Premiered Sep 28, 2022

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