Uncommon Sense

November 21, 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse Redux

Filed under: Culture,The Law,The News — Steve Ruis @ 9:28 am
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So, the criminal trial is over and Kyle Rittenhouse is off the hook, right? Well . . .

Mr. Rittenhouse is off the hook for jail time, but now, one would expect, the civil suits should begin. I believe “wrongful death” cases will be brought, one for each victim, and I do not expect Mr. Rittenhouse to win all of these or even one of these.

The penalties in wrongful death suits can sometimes be discharged in bankruptcy courts but that is not a done deal. The amounts of money in such penalties are often tied to the amounts of money the dead people could have made had they lived, so Mr. Rittenhouse is looking at a future of being a very poor person, or . . . if the right wing assholes of this country embrace him, he could have a decent life but, of course, his notoriety will follow him.

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  1. Compare

    “Michael Reinoehl, 48, a self-described antifa supporter, was filmed shooting the man during last weekend’s tension, and admitted to it before his death.

    Reinoehl earlier said he acted in self-defence when he shot Aaron Danielson, a supporter of the Patriot Prayer group.

    Police said he was armed and was shot during a confrontation with officers.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54023227

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    Comment by James Cross — November 21, 2021 @ 9:54 am | Reply

  2. It appears to be a chain of events that escalated not because Rittenhouse went to Kenosha, but because Joseph Rosenbaum went to kenosha. Had he been a stable individual none of this would have happened.

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    Comment by jim- — November 21, 2021 @ 10:05 am | Reply

    • Jim, you have a point. However, what I’ve wondered about and so far haven’t received an answer … is WHY was Rosebaum chasing Rittenhouse? There had to be something that set this event off … and unless I overlooked it in all the “stuff” I’ve come across, I’m still wondering.

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      Comment by Nan — November 21, 2021 @ 10:35 am | Reply

      • I haven’t followed this until yesterday, but after reading his bio from the trial here https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/1057571558/what-we-know-3-men-kyle-rittenhouse-victims-rosenbaum-huber-grosskreutz
        it seems he had quite history of spontaneous aggression and mental illness.

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        Comment by jim- — November 21, 2021 @ 10:38 am | Reply

        • Thanks. It does sorta’ answer my question … but one wonders what actually took place when he tried to “engage” him? What would cause Rittenhouse to run from him? I suppose we’ll never know for sure.

          As for Rosebaum’s history, IMO, that shouldn’t play a role in determining Rittenhouse’s guilt or innocence … yet others clearly wanted to use it as “justification.”

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          Comment by Nan — November 21, 2021 @ 10:45 am | Reply

          • When Rittenhouse left the scene of the first shooting still carrying his weapon, it’s going to get crazy. How can you tell the good guys from the bad at that point?

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            Comment by jim- — November 21, 2021 @ 11:42 am | Reply

            • Ahh, yes. The fog of war or in this case Friend vs. Foe, NOT for illegitimate uninvited civilian “Security, crowd safety, and property protection” by untrained, unlicensed Mob-inciters—property that isn’t even your own!—but what most all law-enforcement officers complain about when volatile, unruly, mentally-ill civilians part of a ticking-time-bomb protest and NOT easily identifiable by proper uniforms that said law-enforcement are responsible for providing (NOT civilians on public grounds!), but also were ill-prepared for to PROTECT peaceful protestors/civilians under their Constitutional rights to do so… PEACEFULLY.

              Excellent point Jim.

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              Comment by Professor Taboo — November 22, 2021 @ 4:29 pm | Reply

              • I would think that after he fled the little zone he was protecting he would be liable for what transpired. I guess I’m wrong.

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                Comment by jim- — November 22, 2021 @ 4:33 pm | Reply

    • What about the other two people?

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      Comment by James Cross — November 21, 2021 @ 10:45 am | Reply

      • Their bios are in the article as well, but IMO they were in the chain of events of an escalation. This is a great scenario for what to expect if you shoot someone and continue on away from the scene.

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        Comment by jim- — November 21, 2021 @ 11:39 am | Reply

        • I agree, Jim. And it’s a pity the prosecuting attorney didn’t focus on this instead of the over-the-top charges that even those who are unfamiliar with the law knew were not going to fly.

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          Comment by Nan — November 21, 2021 @ 11:45 am | Reply

  3. The same people who paid off [Justice] Cavanaugh’s enormous debts will pay for Kyle’s legal fees and penalties.

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    Comment by john zande — November 21, 2021 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

  4. If I may Steve beg your indulgence, I posted about the Rittenhouse final verdict as well over on my blog. It has stimulated some… umm, very vigorous discussion/debate. To summarize these were my three primary arguments with my DISGUST of the court’s decision, the judge’s restrictions, and the prosecution’s agenda/case…

    —————————————

    My primary focus was my eight questions—with several sub-questions—and I can sum up in three bullet-points MY OWN disgust with the outcome of the 18-yr old’s trial the prosecution totally flubbed-up:

    • The culpable degrees of Rittenhouse’s Intentional Criminal Negligence for bringing a loaded AR-15 style semi-automatic assault rifle to a Constitutionally endorsed protest (peaceful!!!) postured to fire at total strangers. Had the teenage boy been properly parented, educated, trained in law-enforcement, and deputized by the Kenosha Police Dept. or SWAT team… my argument would be utterly different here.

    • Rittenhouse was NOT on his own private property protecting his life or property. He went to Kenosha uninvited to be any sort of legitimate “security & safety” onto PUBLIC GROUNDS with a loaded assault rifle—i.e. projected appearance (motive) opposite of true 2nd Amendment Militia. Period.

    • All that was (probably?) required at the Kenosha protest was legitimate Riot-geared Police, in easily identifiable uniforms. What was the WORST possible gathering were immature, unruly, teenagers or adults searching out opportunities to fight, scuffle, or worse… use unauthorized lethal force on unarmed protestors. Now, the problem arose with the fact that Grosskreutz foolishly was armed, but ironically the one acting as an EMT. Yet, Rittenhouse shot him too! WTH?

    As a few pointed out on my post, the whole ordeal in Kenosha, BY Kenosha law-enforcement was (purposely?) inadequate and DID NOT protect our citizens from harm and unauthorized, illegitimate “Security” intervening. In fact, had there been proper law-enforcement already there and Riot-police already there…. I’d imagine that they would’ve shot and wounded (or killed) Rittenhouse. What a total cluster-fuck it all has been.

    When oh when will we, our law-enforcement, our government, and our justice system learn the harsh realities of abandoning our full Constitution and the six (6) Core Founding Fathers intention within the entire Constitution and all the other supporting sacred/precious documents saved for prosperity in our Library of Congress?

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — November 22, 2021 @ 5:27 pm | Reply

    • I agree, of course. Someone can’t go into a contentious situation with a rifle slung over his shoulder and then kill people because he feared for his life. He didn’t have to go there. He didn’t have to go armed. Those are not things you do to secure your safety, so I don’t accept “fear” as a defence in this case.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 22, 2021 @ 12:14 pm | Reply


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