Uncommon Sense

September 12, 2021

Knowing the Mind of God is Beyond Our Capacity

Filed under: Reason,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 10:39 am
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You have heard and/or read this before, no? It usually comes out of a mouth of someone who is about to tell you what God wants from you . . . and why.

Nonetheless, we could look at this statement a little closer. For example, how could one possibly know this?

One could try and try to “know God” and fail, but what if those tries were half-hearted or wrong-minded? Maybe the next try would work. And maybe other people tried and were successful, just you did and weren’t.

Often enough, the response to “How could you possibly know this?” is “God told me,” either though direct revelation of revelation through Biblical writings. But what if your god was wrong about this? “God is never wrong.” How could you possibly know this? “God told me.” Obviously this approach will not get us anywhere with true believers.

So, we switch gears.

I ask, “If your god wanted us to know him, would then we know him?” The answer must be “yes,” otherwise this god is not all-powerful as claimed. Therefore we can conclude that “knowing god is beyond our capacity” is not a bug but a feature, that is the way this god wants things to be.

So, why would such a god hide his True Nature™ from us? Obviously such a god would not fear anything that might be a consequence, so it is being done for a reason. The religious apologists at this point are lining up with their hands raised (I know, teacher, I know!). They would make up stuff like “knowing god would be so overwhelming that it would kill us,” or “our minds are so puny that they would have to distort god’s true essence to make it conceivable,” and so on. None of this is anything but made up yada-yada designed to get their god off of the hook and should be consigned to the far edges of this conversation. Their suggestions have neither evidence nor meaning.

The real reason that such statements are bullstuff is that they were all made up based upon the whims of an ancient Palestinian improvisation troupe. Because someone else advanced the narrative in an untenable way doesn’t allow the next performer to correct all of the wrong things and substitute better things. The previous has to be folded in as if to say, “yes, we meant that all along.” But what you end up with in the end is rife with errors and contradictions and downright nonsense.

For example, one of the “acceptable” Jesus narratives has him wandering around Jerusalem for forty days after his execution, drawing large crowds and the Romans neither get wind of this nor take any action whatsoever. A more realistic scenario is that the Romans hear of this immediately (through their substantial spy network), suspect either a hoax or an imposter is involved and, to keep the peace, swoop down, gather up this Jesus character, and nail him up for good. Now that would be believable. What is claimed to have taken place is sheer nonsense. And some of the believers will then claim that that shows the story to be true, because it couldn’t have happened without divine intervention. See? Nonsense.

If one actually takes a step back and looks at the overall narrative, human beings are supposed to declare themselves to be slaves to Yahweh/Jesus (accepting Jesus as their Lord and Master, etc.) and are supposed to yearn to live in a country that is ruled by Yahweh/Jesus and His intermediaries as absolute monarchs. No voting, no democracy, no participation by citizens. All human beings are transformed into “subjects” of their realms and will do as they are told or suffer the consequences.

This is desirable? By whom? The only people who want to be cared for in toto would want to have this Sugar Daddy in charge of their lives. Basically, there is no amount of misery that would make these people make a decision on their own. Heaven forbid . . . and it would.

Knowing God is beyond our capacity is true only in the sense that it is made up nonsense that defies understanding. This claim is no different from “Knowing Aslan is beyond our capacity.” It is a feature, not a bug. Aslan is depicted as a talking lion, and is described as the King of Beasts, the son of the Emperor-Over-the-Sea, and the King above all High Kings in Narnia. Prove this is wrong, if you can!

3 Comments »

  1. It’s the ultimate cop out, isn’t it, the whole ‘can’t know the mind of God’ excuse. It’s what they trot out every time one asks them inconvenient questions like, oh, if God loves us so much why does he create pandemics to kill us? Why did he permit Hitler to be born? Why… Well the list goes on and on. So they say we can’t know the mind of God. And then generally in the very next sentence tell us that we *do* know the mind of God and that he wants us to give all our money to self proclaimed prophets to build churches and mansions for them… Sigh…

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    Comment by grouchyfarmer — September 12, 2021 @ 10:40 pm | Reply

    • But, hey, you got to love them. But I feel like I should carry around cards with the definition of irony on them and pass them out to such people.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — September 13, 2021 @ 11:10 am | Reply

  2. I have been a channel for the Triumvirate of Heaven for years and Work every day getting their words out to those that would listen. Everyone is capable of conversing with them, but most tend to ignore. Father or they answer every question asked. By the way, Father didn’t bring on the pandemics, but he has decided that he won’t stop them. Hitler came in to go through his life however it was designed, but he took on evil and used his free will to carry out his ways. But understand, some do come to this earth to be in a cause or to help with a cause for instance, like gun violence or others. Some sacrifice themselves for a cause, so many are saved. There are reasons for everything, but they’re not all from heaven. All Father asks of us is to love him, and he hopes we love each other, then by default love shall overcome and be the forefront in the workings of this world.

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    Comment by rosaliefabbrorattee — September 14, 2021 @ 7:58 am | Reply


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