Uncommon Sense

August 14, 2021

The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine

Filed under: Uncategorized — Steve Ruis @ 1:12 pm

 

Political cartoonists aren’t known for their discernment or restraint, but there is a bit missing from this viewpoint, namely that the Taliban is part of Afghanistan. This cartoon implies that the Taliban are outsiders, but they are not. They are the GOP of Afghanistan. They promote old-fashioned values, they promote religion as a pillar of strong community, they promote traditional gender roles, no trans anything for them.  They are also the equivalent of the US evangelical/fundamentalist religious gun-toting community. If the Afghanis do not want the Taliban to become the ruling faction of their country they better strap on their boots and get to the front. Waiting for “international allies” which their president is involved in talks with right now, is not going to work. (It didn’t work with the Russians, it didn’t work with the Americans, so why the continued charade that outsiders will help the “good Afghanis” rule instead of the “bad Afghanis,” and isn’t this a bit against the wishes of the people. If the people didn’t want the Taliban to rule, they would fight them, no?

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  1. Not especially. While my neighbors for instance, are hoarding guns and building bunkers for the second coming, I am enjoying my life and in the back of my mind just hope they don’t start something. If they do they’ll win.

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    Comment by jim- — August 14, 2021 @ 2:18 pm | Reply

  2. Just an added resource to consider what’s going on in Afghanistan — seems the U.S. is not the only one that’s pulling out. … https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/13/afghanistan-taliban-herat-kandahar-kabul-cities-live-updates

    The Taliban is going to control that country. Period. The only way to prevent it is to continue down the same road that’s existed for the last several years. And essentially, what gain is there in that? More $$$$ for those who support the weapons of war?

    I am not immune to the atrocities that are committed against the people, especially women. But this is the modus operandi of many Middle East countries and has been for centuries. To continue efforts to stop/overcome/prevent them is a losing battle (no pun intended).

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    Comment by Nan — August 14, 2021 @ 2:20 pm | Reply

    • BAAM!!! You nailed it right there for me Nan, regarding Islam and its Quran: “especially women.” Well said.

      And to be honest, I know these atrocities ultimately have NOTHING to do with spiritual mythologies and misguided theological inventions nurturing frustration, confusion, and bitterness that supposedly THEIR GOD/ALLAH created in the first place. Geeezzz, it’s all maddening. And it continues decade after decade, generation after generation, primarily because of mass illiteracy and very poor education—from pre-school to university levels—with one exception! Actually, with one exception of teaching or “spiritual indoctrination” to be more specific.

      This is all aside from the other convoluted chaos of why exactly we attacked & invaded Afghanistan and then made the next massive blunder of doing the same thing in Iraq. 🤦‍♂️ But let’s not get into that quagmire…

      just yet. 😉

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — August 14, 2021 @ 4:17 pm | Reply

      • And we keep wondering why the Afghani army just lays down its weapons and lets the Taliban take over. The Taliban will keep the girls at home, ignorant and compliant, hmm women, too. Do you think the Afghani men are against this? Makes them fighting mad, right? Remember these are the Afghans who have a centuries long reputation as people who will fight at the drop of a hat. If they don’t want to fight, that is unusual. Maybe they approve of the Taliban and their “traditional values.”

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — August 14, 2021 @ 9:16 pm | Reply

        • Ummm, Steve? Why didn’t the George W. Bush Administration think about this? It wasn’t like all these centuries of recorded, verifiable history wasn’t known by the world… especially highly educated (supposedly) nations? This all seem sort of peculiar. 😛 😉

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          Comment by Professor Taboo — August 15, 2021 @ 2:37 pm | Reply

          • G.W. just after opening the White House Office of Religious Affairs or whatever was sent a request for more of something and his response was to dismiss it “Those people always want more, they’ve got all they’re gonna get.” I think that shows that Shrub was just pandering.

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            Comment by Steve Ruis — August 15, 2021 @ 9:34 pm | Reply

  3. Steve,

    Isn’t it perhaps that the native peaceful Afghani Muslims are following, obeying the Quran… to NOT kill fellow Muslims?

    (yes, please notice my intentional paradoxical & theologically double-bind that is rampant in all three Abrahamic religions and their “holy” Scriptures) 😁

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — August 14, 2021 @ 4:08 pm | Reply

    • You mean the ones firing AK-47s at you? I think that proves that they aren’t true Muslims and they can be killed with impunity. :o)

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 14, 2021 @ 9:13 pm | Reply

      • Sadly, exactly my point Steve. I see nothing holy, sacred, or miraculous in any of the world’s religions, with the exception of a tiny, miniscule portion of good natured people—of ANY “religion.” That begs the following obvious question, doesn’t it?

        “Holy Scriptures” or “holy mandates” are just empty words on papyri/paper in about 50,000 various translations. BWAAAAA! 😄

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        Comment by Professor Taboo — August 15, 2021 @ 2:33 pm | Reply

  4. Howdy y’all!

    The biggest problem with the Afghani army is that the leadership is corrupt. All the money that was to be spent on weapons and what not has been taken by the leadership. Same with the government we propped up. A lot of the money we spent over there just found its way into the pocket of whatever warlord or other leader. Essentially, the Afghan War was always going to end this way. It didn’t matter when NATO left: 20 years ago, next year, last year, 20 years from now. As long as the ruling class put themselves before the country, they would not be strong enough to fight off the Taliban.

    Huzzah!
    Jack

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    Comment by CalicoJack — August 14, 2021 @ 10:10 pm | Reply

    • Well, yeah, but also . . . there is no indication that Afghani men want to fight the Taliban. The Afghans are are fierce people, a people of a long history of warriors, yet they never seem to want to fight the Taliban. For the men, there is really no downside to Taliban rule, per se, so I suspect than many support the Taliban and took positions in “the Army” because it paid well.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 15, 2021 @ 11:20 am | Reply

  5. You answered your own question. The Taliban are the ones with the guns and the organization. In the absence of free elections, there is no way of knowing whether the Afghan people as a whole want the Taliban to rule or not. There’s every reason to think that at least 50% (the women) and probably far more, don’t want them to rule. They are simply not in a position to fight back, and they know that resisting and being defeated would mean being subject to horrific brutality.

    If organized government in the US collapsed, the most heavily-armed element — the right-wing gun nuts — would probably take over, simply because they could. This would not represent what the majority of Americans wanted. It would just represent a cutting of losses in the face of unavoidable disaster.

    For the men, there is really no downside to Taliban rule

    Except for those who are Shi’ite and likely to be massacred once the Taliban take full control, or those who want any kind of modern or decent life. They are just making the same calculation we would in the same situation, that open resistance is suicide and they are better off going into hiding or trying to get out of the country.

    In any case, the women are just as much part of the Afghan people and matter just as much.

    This is vile excuse-making for a totalitarian seizure of power by armed fundamentalist thugs. No one who is talking like this would be talking like this if it were happening in our own country. It’s absurd.

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    Comment by Infidel753 — August 16, 2021 @ 3:30 am | Reply

    • Re “If organized government in the US collapsed, the most heavily-armed element — the right-wing gun nuts — would probably take over.” Actually, the military would take over, which has been the pattern around the world since Roman times.

      Also, do women get to vote in Afghanistan? Actually now that the Taliban are in charge, that is a moot point, but did they before?

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 16, 2021 @ 9:56 am | Reply

      • Question, Steve. If the “organized government” was gone, who would be in charge of the military? I tend to think Infidel has a point.

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        Comment by Nan — August 16, 2021 @ 10:16 am | Reply

        • The military has a built-in command structure. All it would take is some general to show some initiative, declare martial law to “restore order” and that would be that. Militia members would fare quite poorly against the Fifth Cavalry.

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — August 16, 2021 @ 10:22 am | Reply


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