Uncommon Sense

June 23, 2021

Just Stop with the Christian Nation BS

Filed under: Uncategorized — Steve Ruis @ 9:05 am

I noticed an “American Heritage” documentary series on one of the streaming services, with the focus of showing how this is a “Christian nation.” I do not link to it because I just roughly perused the episodes.

It seems as if a small cottage industry has formed around the desire to show that this is a “Christian nation.” Whereas it is correct to say that this was a nation of Christians when it was founded, it was not founded as a Christian nation. In fact, it was founded as a secular nation.

The whole idea of secular anythings was dreamt up by the church. Yep, it is a religious concept. One of its greatest proponents in its modern sense was . . . wait for it . . . Martin Luther. Now Luther was as close as you can get to being a religious extremist/fanatic. He had no intention of creating the Protestant religion(s), he merely wanted to root out the corruption he saw in the Catholic church. And he saw secular government was a way to do just that. Why have church officials dirty their hands dealing with criminals, road construction, and sewage disposal. That’s what Caesars are for. (Plenty of New Testament support for this, no?)

So, let a secular group handle daily government and the prelates handle Jesus and their “flock’s” spiritual lives. Again, this is part of the unholy bargain made between secular and religious elites in almost every version of civilization we have ever created.

On top of all that: there is no democracy in the Bible! None! Zero! Zip! Zilch!

The only form of government mentioned in the Bible is monarchies. The preferred form of government is a religious monarchy in which the king/emperor/queen is also an instrument of the culture’s god. There is no voting in the Bible. There are no surveys as to the wants of the people. There are no people’s representatives, chosen by the people.

In the Bible it is Yahweh or the highway. Jesus’s followers/disciples were promised the position of being the lord/king of one of the “nations,” aka the political entities surrounding  Israel, and they lusted after those positions. (Boy, things will sure be different when I am in charge!)

So, I won’t be watching the “documentary” series on how this is a Christian nation because all of the evidence is to the contrary and whatever “Biblical support” for their position they come up with cannot counter the overwhelming rejection of democracy/self-rule the Bible proposes.

Calling this country a Christian nation because it began as a nation of mostly Christians is simply another part of the power grab. While the secular and religious elites share their power, each wants it all to themselves and acts accordingly every time they get an opportunity.

By flooding the media with video and print materials making their false claim, they can achieve the point in which there are volumes of “information” on both sides and soon, calls to “teach the controversy” in our schools will surely be made. Casual observers will look at the small ocean of “information” supporting their preferred outcome and believe that their side has the right of it. And we become even more polarized than ever before.

This seems, sadly, to be the pattern of our political discourse for the foreseeable future.

This is a consequence of allowing so much wealth to be accumulated in few hands. Every quack idea under the sun will be supported by great wealth, diluting out good information with bad. We learned this lesson regarding currency (bad money, as in counterfeit currency, drives out good) and we need to learn it regarding “information” if we mean to survive.

Postscript
Here is one blurb for the series:
Discover the forgotten and astonishing story of our nation’s founding in the American Heritage Series. For centuries, we were taught a providential view of American history that presented our godly heroes and the mortal foundation upon which our nation was built. However, in recent years, a new version of history has assaulted the fiber of our nation, censoring the core values of our past – until today! From separation of church and state to the civil rights movement, from the heroism of our founding fathers to the building of our nation’s monuments this series will inspire every American to reclaim the godly, true story of our nation. Experience the untold story of our nation’s history in the American Heritage series. America: This is your heritage!

Notice the ploy. The story of our nation’s founding has been “forgotten.” (WTF? Every school child is taught oodles of American history, most of it distorted by an overly positive view of the rightness of all of our actions.

Note that they whine about how “For centuries, we were taught a providential view of American history that presented our godly heroes and the mortal foundation upon which our nation was built.” basically bemoaning the loss of their fairy tales having been replaced by real history. They want the role of churchmen in opposing slavery taught, but not the role of other churchmen supporting slavery mentioned at all, for instance.

And when whining isn’t enough, there is hyperbole” “a new version of history has assaulted the fiber of our nation,  censoring the core values of our past.” I wonder if that is the same fiber we are supposed to have in our diets. Imagine . . . “History to the left of me, history to the right of me, into the valley of. . . .” It is war, I tell you!

“Experience the untold story” . . . yeah, there is a reason their version is untold—fictional accounts are now considered inappropriate to study in American history classes.

Oh, and if you think this bilge will be ignored, the average rating for this series on this site, a reputable movie rating site, is 4.5/5 stars. You can make a lot of money serving confirmation bias.

9 Comments »

  1. Free speech has come to mean: “we can lie our asses off and get away with it!”

    They get away with it largely because the population is under educated and/or too damn lazy to check the facts. The degree of lying, under the guise of free speech, has reached a critical point IMO. It has to be checked somehow, some way.

    I say make them pay! Make them pay for every lie they tell. Fine them to the point they can only afford to tell the truth. That goes for every so called news outlet, social media platform, politicians, preachers, you name it. The only acceptable lie to tell is when answering the question, “dear, do I look fat in this dress?!”

    To your point, yes, this was never a x-ian nation. That hasn’t stopped them from trying to make it so. You’d think that lying, being so against their religion, would make them stop and think before they do so. Funny huh?

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    Comment by shelldigger — June 23, 2021 @ 12:37 pm | Reply

    • I don’t think that it is that people are too lazy to check the facts, it is that so many lies have been wrapped in fancy packaging that there is so much to check that it is daunting to even begin. The religious have never been encouraged to “check the facts,” only to accpet what we say as our word and, since God and I are so close, you can consider my word the word of god.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — June 23, 2021 @ 12:47 pm | Reply

      • You are more forgiving than I am 🙂 Anyone who just accepts that there are Jewish space lasers causing wildfires, or any similar idiocy, has a fact checking problem 😉

        Forget the religious, they are trained to believe everything their priest tells them to believe. Questioning the clergy is a sin donchaknow?

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        Comment by shelldigger — June 23, 2021 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

        • I’ll give you that. :o) I was rederring to honest people who are told what they think they already knew in a glossy silick package. Nothing to check here, so move along. And if you do decide to check, there si just so much of it out there.

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — June 23, 2021 @ 1:04 pm | Reply

  2. The only form of government mentioned in the Bible is monarchies

    Wait up… The book of Acts has two explicit passages depicting the very communistic nature of the early Christian community:

    All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
    (Acts 2:44-45)

    There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
    (Acts 4:34-37)

    Is it possible that Marx’s famous line “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” took its inspiration directly from the New Testament?

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    Comment by john zande — June 23, 2021 @ 1:59 pm | Reply

    • But, but, but . . . that’s socialism! :o)

      And who were the leaders of this tiny band of Christians? Peter, and James, and John. They had a leadership group, which laid down the rules, using the authority of their relationship with Jesus, I believe. Remember the story of how the rich couple were treated? Sounds like a “top-down” policy to me.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — June 24, 2021 @ 10:31 am | Reply

  3. Steve,

    You and I have discussed this false notion a number of times. We’re both in complete agreement that the CORE Founding Fathers designed our Constitutional Republic (democracy) as a Secular federal government. For the sake of future progress, they designed into these State’s Rights which more less included fewer nitpicky legal constraints or some increased legal flexibility so long as they don’t violate our three major founding documents and about 3-4 later supporting documents, Amendments, and iconic political speeches registered in our Library of Congress. With that you stated:

    That’s what Caesars are for. (Plenty of New Testament support for this, no?) So, let a secular group handle daily government and the prelates handle Jesus and their “flock’s” spiritual lives. Again, this is part of the unholy bargain made between secular and religious elites…

    There is a big fat boiling cauldron of pros, cons and whys the old vanguard Catholic Church and Martin Luther justified these changes/movements they wanted, not the least of which was maintaining (complete?) control of the masses. It can be well argued that the “control” they wished to keep was NOT over society’s upper-echelons of wealthy nobility and their families or monarchies. HAH! Double standards? 😉 But it was over the middle- and lower-classes of society; the “rude, crass, and uneducated” if you will, they wanted continued control over. This was one of several Old World reasons our Core Founding Fathers wanted “separations” from the Church, as a matter of fact ANY religious organization intruding, influencing, interfering, super seceding, overthrowing(?) a/our Constitutional Republic led by neutral, SECULAR-BASED laws and courts, not the never-ending quagmire of unverifiable, religious mythologies from past millenia!

    We both are constantly reminded of our own studies and research Steve aren’t we? Your excellent book—which I later bought—entitled “The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American” by Andrew Seidel, and my May 2015 blog-post The Mistaken Identity of the U.S.

    As you correctly pointed out this Fight Without a Cause—a practical, unverifiable cause—is made and remade by a small population of hyper-religious groups. This unnecessary, forgone concluded non-debate of the factual design and creation of our Constitutional Republic by the Core Founding Fathers seems to never go away, does it Steve? 🤦‍♂️

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — June 23, 2021 @ 2:25 pm | Reply


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