Uncommon Sense

December 25, 2020

The Toxicity of American Evangelical Christianity

Filed under: Culture,Politics,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 10:47 am
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In my mind, religion has always been about division. We humans have always fundamentally wanted two things: the feeling that we possess special knowledge (“There is something (I know) that you don’t know” is a common childhood taunt.) and the feeling that we are right and “they” are wrong. This has led religion down the path of “we have special knowledge that you don’t have and we are right and you are wrong,” sound familiar? This is why there are tens of thousands of different versions of Christianity, for example.

So, by dividing one “flock” off from the other “flocks” a flock leader can feel “special,” the members of the flock can feel “special” and, well, let the gloating begin. (Bring back the Church lady! Wouldn’t that be Special!)

So, the evangelical Christianity leadership reaction to the results of the recent presidential election is hardly surprising, but in watching the video linked to below, which contains a sampling of such reactions, I see our grand American experiment in democracy circling the drain. Do we need any more evidence that mixing politics and religions is a very, very bad idea? I do not see us coming together with powerful forces like social media and religion creating positive reinforcement for divisive positions.

Is this the beginning of our end? It could very well be, if we don’t shake off these shlockmeisters, making money off of our demise.

PS I support the Holy Koolaid effort through Patreon, but I am not hawking their wares.

23 Comments »

  1. Oh. My. Gawd! You just ruined my day (and on such a “holy” day to boot!). What a bunch of nitwits! My stomach was actually churning just listening to their wackiness. Geezo! I could only make it for the first three minutes! How anyone could listen to the entire thing has a much stronger constitution than me.

    No wonder Trump thinks he won … he’s been “convinced” by the “holy prophets” of god! And of course, they all know this because …. god.

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    Comment by Nan — December 25, 2020 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

    • Yeah, I had the same reaction. They must have majored in pandering in divinity school.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 8:53 am | Reply

  2. You need to add 50 justices to the Supreme Court. Dilute it, and reverse the religious intrusion… and Citizens United.

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    Comment by john zande — December 25, 2020 @ 2:46 pm | Reply

    • Something needs be done, what isn’t exactly clear. Someone suggested *reducing *the court to six seats, which would unseat the last three. Going forward, to make a decision they would need at least a 4-2 split, no more 5-4 major changes in our courts. I kind of like that.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 8:55 am | Reply

      • Not a bad idea, could work, but it just seems when it’s small it’s too easy to become a political body, with individuals holding ENORMOUS power over decades of US social/political life.

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        Comment by john zande — December 26, 2020 @ 9:49 am | Reply

  3. Do you not think that there’s a sort of “antagonistic strain” that’s part of the American psyche? I don’t mean in society as a whole, but that from the beginning as a colony and then country, there was a portion of society which thrived by proposing itself as not part of the status quo.

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    Comment by The Pink Agendist — December 25, 2020 @ 5:24 pm | Reply

    • I think that’s a definite cultural myth, like Australians all think we’re comfortable in the bush… despite 95% of people living on the coast.

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      Comment by john zande — December 25, 2020 @ 6:40 pm | Reply

      • You mean like all Americans think that they can become rich? I can’t imagine a serf or peasant at any time in European history thinking that they might become a royal some day.

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 8:58 am | Reply

        • Fool! The golden slipper, my man, THE GOLDEN SLIPPER!!!!

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          Comment by john zande — December 26, 2020 @ 9:49 am | Reply

          • I believe I stepped upon that, fell, and cracked my head. Might as well have been the Golden Banana Peel.

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            Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 10:07 am | Reply

            • Oooops, I meant crystal slipper, didn’t I?

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              Comment by john zande — December 26, 2020 @ 10:08 am | Reply

              • Ah, a Cinderella trope … missed it! Normally I can read your mind. Maybe it is the drugs?

                Here’s hoping 2021 sucks less than 2020.

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                Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 10:25 am | Reply

      • Really? In European culture the anti-establishment psyche seems to have been born in its most important modern political form with Protestantism. And as you know the strength of that depended greatly on the pre-existing culture.

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        Comment by The Pink Agendist — December 26, 2020 @ 9:27 am | Reply

        • Is that to me or Steve?

          You’re right, though. But wouldn’t you also say the French Revolution took it to the next (secular) level?

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          Comment by john zande — December 26, 2020 @ 9:51 am | Reply

          • To both. Yes, and in fact the French religious wars decimated the country. I think to a degree the revolutionaries descend from the same sector in society that rejects (or wants to take control of?) the classical hierarchy.

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            Comment by The Pink Agendist — December 26, 2020 @ 11:32 am | Reply

        • Yeah, it is interesting that the protestants basically adopted most of the Catholic practices then in place. They weren’t all that rebellious. (Luther aparantly wanted to reform the church but not replace it or compete with it, but the Mother Church would brook no opposition and so created the war.)

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 10:06 am | Reply

          • Or did he simply find a mechanism through which he could be elevated into power?

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            Comment by The Pink Agendist — December 26, 2020 @ 11:33 am | Reply

            • He certainly was a strange character and, as I read the histories, seemed to be torn this way and that, so a complex character for sure. Of course, one man doesn’t make a revolution (or reformation) and the instigator doesn’t always end up leading the revolution.

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              Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 11:39 am | Reply

              • Another interestingly complex example is Bolivar.

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                Comment by The Pink Agendist — December 26, 2020 @ 2:27 pm | Reply

                • Between it taking a comp[lex personality to do anything of very large scale, followed by governments and other “legacy minders” work, I think we would be shocked (Shocked, I tell you!) were we to knwo the truth on any situation.

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                  Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 9:29 pm | Reply

    • Oh, yes, that and an anti-intellectual strain, and an anti-royalty strain, and … a veritable witch’s brew of opinionated people.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 8:56 am | Reply

  4. I firmly believe that no religious group should be permitted to have any kind of political influence at all, and absolutely no government entity should be permitted to interact with any religious group in any way. As soon as any religious group gains any kind of political influence, or any kind of support from the government, no matter how minor, they quickly use that to try to gain even more influence and push their religious agenda onto people who don’t want anything to do with them.

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    Comment by grouchyfarmer — December 25, 2020 @ 10:35 pm | Reply

    • I wonder why so many people do not see this as obvious? It had played out this way over and over and over. I do not know when it has not played out that way. Christians went from being on the outside and pleading for tolerance to being on the inside and rooting out heresy almost overnight.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 26, 2020 @ 9:00 am | Reply


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