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September 11, 2020

Doing the Time Warp

Filed under: Culture,Reason,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 11:07 am
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Consequences, there are consequences . . . to being a know it all.

Apparently the Christian god knows everything that has happened and will happen. This means this god already knows what you will be praying for next week, next year, and in ten years. Already knows.

Musical Interlude
Let’s do the Time Warp again
It’s so dreamy
Oh, fantasy free me
So you can’t see me
No, not at all . . .

So, if this god already has heard your prayers, why would it wait until you actually said them to respond? If your prayer sounds like a good idea, it should be implemented immediately, no? So, if the prayer was, say, to save a believer’s daughter from a deadly disease, the god could step in, prevent the child from getting the disease in the first place and thus avoid all of the pain, suffering, and anguish on the part of the child and parents . . . no?

Of course, if this god were interested in the credit for the saved little life, then waiting would make such a “miracle cure” more dramatic, no? But to whose benefit is that?

Plus, it is claimed that this god has a plan for each and every one of us. If it already knows what will come about, wouldn’t that have been worked into his plan already? This would mean that prayers would be totally useless/ineffective, which studies prove them to be, so maybe this is why. This god has already taken your prayers into account and the plan was formulated with those being known, so whatever you pray for will come up empty. What will happen has already been decided.

If, as part of your plan, you are to get deathly sick, go in hospital, almost die, but survive and recover your health. All of your Christian friends, however, will have been beavering away praying that you recover, see that you have recovered and shouts of “Praise God!” will rise up in church on Sunday. Of course, had you died, they would have said that their god had other plans for you. Either way god wins and this is less work for him and so is more likely than a working model of intercessionary prayer.

Why such a being would give a rat’s fart for what you think is also a mystery, along with why he would want you to love him. “God needs your love” says many things about that god and none of them are flattering.

But then, I guess being all-knowing is its own reward . . . and punishment. It sounds like a curse to me.

PS Bonus points for who recognizes the song the lyric was snatched from.

 

9 Comments »

  1. Trying to wrap one’s brain around this kind of thing is frankly painful. Christianity (indeed all religions for that matter) are internally inconsistent, even self contradictory if you start to think about it. Which is why actual thinking and the application of logic is so strongly discouraged by almost all religions.

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    Comment by grouchyfarmer — September 11, 2020 @ 11:42 am | Reply

    • Yeah, not only does it lead to disbelief, but it hurts your brain! Ow, ow, ow, make it stop! (I am so glad Gary Larsen is getting back into the game.)

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — September 11, 2020 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

    • Me too 🙂 I’m over at Larson’s website just about every day. I’m also fond of Existential Comics (http://existentialcomics.com/). “Now 2495 days without a Kant/Can’t pun!”

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      Comment by grouchyfarmer — September 11, 2020 @ 1:37 pm | Reply

  2. “It’s astounding…time is fleeting…madness takes its toll..” (Now I have an earworm, rats.)

    And your points fit right in to what I often say when I’m accosted by preachers: “If you are in communication with a perfect god, and that god knows everything that I think, then that god could have told you the right words to come and say to me to get me to pay attention to you. But no, your god is sending you to me with the same old schlocky apologetics and platitudes that I’ve already heard a million times. Maybe you should ask your god why that is.”

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    Comment by Ubi Dubium — September 11, 2020 @ 1:32 pm | Reply

    • Actually you can accuse them of faking being in communication with their god, because their god would have told them how to convince you. Denounce them as blasphemers and send them packing!

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — September 11, 2020 @ 1:36 pm | Reply

      • Yes, when they protest that god really did tell them to come talk to me, I tell them that they have just shown themselves to be one of the many false teachers their book warned me about, and they should shove off. The real messenger from god would have my passcode, and start the conversation with it. Or, they’d have something even more astonishing and personal than getting my passcode right, and that’s a pretty high bar already. But for someone that god talks to, it should be a cinch, right?

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        Comment by Ubi Dubium — September 11, 2020 @ 1:45 pm | Reply

  3. If I pray that Donald Trump is not reelected, will God also step in and reverse the last four years?

    If he does, then I will believe.

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    Comment by James Cross — September 11, 2020 @ 4:50 pm | Reply

    • You and me, both! Now that would be a verifiable miracle!

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — September 11, 2020 @ 10:02 pm | Reply


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