I put “like” in the title in quotes because if I actually did hear from Nazi flag wavers, I suspect that I wouldn’t like what I heard.
What I would “like to know” is what part of Nazism do they like and espouse.
Do they like and espouse, for example, making war on one’s neighbors to make space for more Germans (or Americans) to live and if a few million of the neighbors die in that process, well that makes even more room for us?
Do they like and espouse, for example, letting a small cadre of politicians redefine the country any way they deem fit, even if it contradicts all previous version of the country?
Do they like and espouse, for example, identifying cadres or “races” of people to blame for the current ills of the country (well, and past ones, too)?
Do they like and espouse, for example, crafting and executing plans to exterminate the cadres/races of people identified as “enemies of the state?”
Do they like and espouse, for example, indoctrination of the entire populace, but especially young people, to respect, adore, love the Leader of the small cadre of politicians through propaganda based upon nothing real?
Do they like and espouse, for example, controlling all of the news media so that they only report what the ruling regime wants reported?
Do they like and espouse, for example, the efficiency of the Nazi’s secret police, that was able to kill or disappear any persons who were the slightest bit inconvenient to the plans of the small group of ruling politicians?
Do they like and espouse, for example, rigged elections that when they produce the desired effect then result in elections being suspended as being counterproductive to the plans of the ruling elites?
Do they like and espouse, for example, the pushing of religious leaders into the background where their influence becomes nil?
Do they like and espouse, for example, the Nazi’s promotion of white supremacy/racial superiority?
What is it about Nazism that they love so much that they promote it by waving a Nazi flag?
Or are they just childishly seeking attention that their rather meager skills otherwise do not merit?
Enquiring minds want to know. . . .
Uncommon Sense 
You might ask our current President Steve. The idiot orange orangutan certainly doesn’t publicly decry their violent protests and the racism they promote. His reaction and words following Charlottesville, VA, sufficiently demonstrates his position.
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Comment by Professor Taboo — May 25, 2020 @ 3:24 pm |
Oh, I am sure those neo-Nazi’s are good people as the POTUS tells me so … there’s a song lyric there.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 8:09 am |
American Pie … but you knew this.
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Comment by Arkenaten — May 26, 2020 @ 9:59 am |
I was think of “Jesus loves me, this I know, because the Bible tells me so.” Now, as a fascist Trump ode “Trump he loves me this I know, because Fox News tells me so …” :o)
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 10:15 am |
I think you might be disappointed with what you’d learn. Having had some first hand experience with people involved in fringe movements (a Falange offspring, to be precise) I discovered the ideology was barely skin deep. They knew nothing but slogans and had a desperate need to assert belonging and “superiority”, which is in quotations because I imagine it was a compensatory mechanism.
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Comment by The Pink Agendist — May 25, 2020 @ 6:07 pm |
I think you are right. A sense of belonging is very tangible and I can remember it being very intense in college sports teams I was a member of. (When I “hung up my sneakers” as the saying goes, I was sad about that of several years thereafter.)
But of all things to claim an attachment to. Maybe it is because the neo-Nazi’s have low admission requirements, e.g. fog a mirror held up to your mouth and you are in!
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 8:12 am |
I knew a really lovely guy in Spain, a waiter at a place we frequented. He was so charming we ended up inviting him and his then girlfriend for drinks at our house and we became sort of friends. He was a hardcore Falange enthusiast with tattoos and all. And yet he was perfectly happy to be friends with gay people with mixed foreign blood. He brushed off my analysis of the Falange as being too “intellectual” and claimed it was just about being patriotic and loving Spain. No matter how much I explained to him the history he just brushed it all aside as irrelevant details.
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Comment by The Pink Agendist — May 26, 2020 @ 8:23 am |
And as Santayana said, those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. I think we, in this country, do a disservice to ourselves by sanitizing history. History should get people’s ire roused, should get them riled up, should provoke moral responses … instead we have a dull march through a series a sterile events. And most Americans have little to no interest in what they can learn from our history.
Stay well, my friend!
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 8:27 am |
Indeed. I know few people, especially women, I hate to say, that have even a remote interest in history..apathy is the bottom line I think
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 26, 2020 @ 10:48 am |
As a teacher I participated in the Blame the Students Movement before I recognized it for what it was. I don’t believe that any more. I think history can be taught as an exciting subject. Look at how popular historical novels are. This is because there are real people in them and you can feel what they feel … when you are told about them and their stories, instead of the just the thinking of the elites.
Some historians worry about the accuracy of their teachings. I would rather admit that “the victors write the history” and teach people how to think for themselves. How many public school students will need a store of accurate historical knowledge at their fingertips in their lives? I’d say very few. What is needed is an appreciation of the histories that are available and the bias of the various sources, so people can find out for themselves.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 11:12 am |
While a lot of them are indeed little more than spoiled children who don’t really understand what the symbols they’re waving really mean, I’ve actually met some of these people and, to be blunt, they *do* like and want exactly everything you pointed out, and worse. Oh, many are play acting, doing it for the attention. But the hardcore ones? They really mean it, and worse. They are actual, real nazis in the worst sense of the word. And they firmly believe that one day the “revolution” will come when they and others like them rise up and literally exterminate the lesser races and all those who don’t believe as they do.
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Comment by grouchyfarmer — May 25, 2020 @ 10:22 pm |
Man will destroy himself and they and people like them will be the vehicle…and then they’ll turn on each other.. ad infinitum ..it’s just a matter of time.
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 26, 2020 @ 8:07 am |
I find myself reassured by their gross incompetence. If they were really effective, e.g. sending messages with persuasive words rather than symbols, I would be far more worried.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 26, 2020 @ 8:16 am |
They are also generally cowards as well. You almost never see one of them alone, but only in groups where they gather a sort of collective courage or bravado that individually they do not have for the most part.
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Comment by grouchyfarmer — May 26, 2020 @ 10:20 pm |
I suspect that there had to be a hard core of “true believers” involved and that is quite dismaying. But in any major population, and 300+ million people is one of those, no matter how many standard deviations you get from the mean, you are going to find a substantial number of folks. Brings a whole new meaning to the Six Sigma movement.
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