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November 21, 2019

Stupid Watergate II

Comedian John Oliver has tagged the current goings on in the White House as “Stupid Watergate II” and it seems fitting. I mean, if you get conned by an expert, there is some respect for the finesse used to con you. Being conned by idiots allows no such ego protection.

In any case, I remember the televised Senate Watergate hearings (begun May 17, 1973 . . . remember Nixon resigned August 9, 1974, so this was a long process). What I do not remember is the denigration of the process and character assassinations that we are now hearing. It seemed that the hearings were run with some effort to simply discover the truth. The committee chair, Sam Ervin of North Carolina and ranking member Howard Baker of Tennessee seemed not to be at loggerheads all of the time, but worked together quite well.

(Possibly that four of the seven members were from the South may have brought some Southern manners to the affair, but . . . or that those were Senate hearings while we are now watching House proceedings . . . or . . .)

Are my memories just really cloudy or was there just more decorum back then?

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  1. I don’t think decorum was any different then. What’s different is the “person-in-charge” has no “couth” and this has been passed onto his supporters — both in and out of office. IOW, say what you think and to hell with truth, accuracy, or people’s feelings.

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    Comment by Nan — November 21, 2019 @ 11:54 am | Reply

    • But in these hearings I am hearing what basically are character assassinations, rather than inquiries into facts. I hear the hearings and process itself being called a witch hunt … by those involved. This seems very different to me than those previous hearings.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 21, 2019 @ 11:57 am | Reply

      • Isn’t “character assassination” a favorite action of tRumpsky? What’s good for the goose …

        But I see where you’re coming from. These proceedings are more of a circus than a lawfully allowed inquiry.

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        Comment by Nan — November 21, 2019 @ 12:07 pm | Reply

        • Is Trump someone you would pick as a role model. What is with all of these politicians? They don’t have to act like Trump to suck up to him? Are they that shallow?

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — November 21, 2019 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  2. Sir, I also remember the Nixon hearings and do not even try to apply any “southern couth/hospitality” to them. Yes, they were much less nasty, or as you said above, personal attacks.
    I have lived in central Louisiana now for over 19 years. Southern hospitality may, notice I said MAY, have existed once upon a time, but my view now is that was another damn myth. Yep, just like that there holly buy-bull is all myth. People here are as rude as they ever were when I lived in SoCal.
    What we have today are a bunch of low life losers running the show in both houses of congress. On a side note, I refuse to use a capital C for the two houses of congress until we have more than a small few members who are truly honorable humans. Also, I nearly vomit when news media tell me that the senate AND congress are holding hearings on any subject. Ah well, ‘Merikkka, dumb ass news readers for a dumb ass population.
    All we have today are political grand standers, who believe themselves to be reality TV stars. The same media I find revolting tries to tell me that Bernie is a socialist! LOLMAO!!! Same for that critter, oh what is her name? Aha, Warren. They are semi moderate members of the elephant gang.
    Yes, Trump is a moronic buffoon. He owned at least two full blown casinos in Atlantic City and the both went bust! Holy crap, how can one human own a casino and go broke? Beyond belief of any sort to me.
    Our society, if I dare call it such, has devolved into a bunch of petty minded asshats/morons/selfish 3 year olds who would have been kicked OUT of sandbox were they to ever have been in any decent pre-school. Wait till they get to kindergarten and they come face to face with a kid who is an inch taller and maybe 2 pounds heavier. Yeah baby, I’d pay to see that one. Trump puller a con job on the nation and the gang that lost cannot take it. Neither can the dried up old prune who figured she was going to be coronated as our ruler. She needs to shut up and go away. Oh, if this gets me banned, no big deal, take away my commenting privileges, I cannot be offended, remember I enlisted in the USMC and went to Vietnam. I am not able to be offended. I do get highly pissed off at the stupidity of this country however. ‘Merikkka needs a damn good spanking in my opinion.

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    Comment by Walter Kronkat — November 21, 2019 @ 4:37 pm | Reply

    • I suggest that even myths have some substance. It was the high and mighty that put on airs and acted all genteel like, you know, like senators. And it wasn’t hospitality so much as decorum in public places that I was asking about.

      I agree that people tend to be pretty much the same when taken as a whole where ever you go, but, damn, those Canadians seem awful damned nice. (actual every foreigner I have encountered in my travels has been quite nice, but then the majority of them were making money off of my presence.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 21, 2019 @ 6:42 pm | Reply

  3. Great question Steve. I would say that decorum in the 1970’s was of a different form, but ultimately the same: to use whatever means necessary for the accused to appear as the victim of political abuses and “unfounded aggression.” Decorum can be a WICKED art-form that deceives the naive and gullible. I think this is the case during any of America’s most turbulent, controversial times. That said, there is one question that 90% of the time can unveil corruption, deceit, and legislative policies that DO NOT facilitate all the sacred pillars of a Constitutional democracy, i.e. total equality in all sectors of life:

    Do your words, promises, and actions reflect parity in 1) quality housing, 2) economic-income opportunities, 3) educational advancement for all Americans, 4) access to good healthcare and mental-health, and 5) comprehensive rights/access to all civic duties and privileges for every single American?

    Of those 5 sectors, Trump cannot claim (unequivocally) high-marks in ANY of the five.

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — November 21, 2019 @ 6:59 pm | Reply

    • Nixon wasn’t beneath smear campaigns, disinformation, etc. but he protected his reputation like a maniac. Many people were shocked to hear him swear on the Oval Office tapes! Trump apparently has no such concerns.

      But the senators back then seemed to be quite polite, even when the knives were out.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 21, 2019 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  4. Yes, they kept up their public persona. Sure, it was usually a false one, but they didn’t go on record as spoiled 3 year old brats. No doubt they said some “not for church” words under their breath quite often, but not for public consumption.

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    Comment by Walter Kronkat — November 22, 2019 @ 4:48 pm | Reply


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