The current front runner for the Democratic nomination for the office of president is former senator and vice-president Joe Biden. Nominating him would be a horrible mistake, so why is he a front runner?
The talking heads all mention the “electability” of Joe Biden. How they make this determination is not shared and it is very, very flawed. Joe Biden is not electable, even with Donald Trump as his opponent.
Think about it. In 2008, this very racist country elected its first black president. Why? I say “hope and change.” Ordinary Americans have become very, very tired of the elites saying things are just hunky dory when their lives are swirling down the toilet. The status quo is very nice for the elites as they are reaping almost all of the benefits of society and government but that status quo represents lower wages, insecure jobs, part-time employment instead of full-time and fewer fringe benefits if you are lucky enough to acquire a full-time job for the rest of us.
Mr. Obama runs for re-election in 2012 and who do the Republican choose but a smarmy rich guy, a more obvious icon of the former status quo as you can get and he loses, of course. But Mr. Obama promised hope and change and partially because of Republican intransigence and their own commitment to the status quo, the status quo gets disrupted very, very little and income and wealth disparities continue to rise. It also didn’t help that the Obama administration decided to bail out banks and their effing shareholders but not ordinary Americans from the ravages of the Great Recession.
So, then we arrive at the 2016 election and we have a choice between Hillary Clinton, another avatar of the status quo, and Donald Trump and we elect the execrable Donald Trump. Was there ever a greater statement of dissatisfaction with the way things were going than the election of Donald Fucking Trump to be President of the United States?
And people are now talking seriously about running Joe Biden for president. If he is selected as the Democratic nominee, expect four more years of Donald Trump. If you can say anything positive about our current POTUS is that he is definitely not acting like the people who got us into this mess in the first place. That he is acting in a very negative way doesn’t seem to matter to many voters who want ever so much something other than the status quo created by the post Viet Nam war era political parties.
Uncommon Sense 
After this Degenerate Orange Stain is removed from the WH, I think the US needs a Biden so everyone can decompress. Biden’s problem, though, is he doesn’t get the climate crisis, and there really isn’t the luxury of 4 or 8 years when the house is on fire.
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Comment by john zande — May 31, 2019 @ 9:01 am |
I agree 100%…not Biden. I’m sure he is a very nice man and I would vote for ANYONE over trump, but…he is the wrong choice to win, I think, and if he becomes the candidate, we will have another 4 years of trump. Might anyway…
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 31, 2019 @ 1:31 pm |
Who do you like this far out? It really is an embarrassment of riches.
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Comment by john zande — May 31, 2019 @ 2:17 pm |
I am a fan of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders (why the NYT is so opposed to him and her I do not know) but will support almost any of the nontraditional candidates (Kammala Harris, Mayor Pete, etc.) I do not care for most of the rest.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — May 31, 2019 @ 2:23 pm |
Please let it be Warren. Klobuchar would be superb, too. Don’t bite me, but I find Harris to be a grandstander, an actor with very little substance.
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Comment by john zande — May 31, 2019 @ 2:27 pm |
I like Mayor Pete, Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren so far the best..
Some of the lesser known may be good, but I just know nothing about them…
Debates will be interesting…still I worry..
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 31, 2019 @ 3:47 pm |
It seems the world is different now and Hilary and Joe seem not to know. GROG
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Comment by grogalot — May 31, 2019 @ 9:09 am |
I tend to agree with you regarding Biden. I think he’s a “favorite” for the simple reason he’s a known factor. As regards Bernie, I liked him the first go-round, but I think he’s a bit too far out to be a successful candidate. I have no particular feelings one way or the other about Warren, but then I haven’t been paying a whole lot of attention to her. I do think she fits the image of a woman president.
Actually, I’m leaning more towards the new-comers. Although I may be “over the hill,” I still like the new and different and even revolutionary things that the younger generation offers. 🙂
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Comment by Nan — May 31, 2019 @ 2:36 pm |
I’d like to see AOC someday….but I’m a dreamer.😊
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 31, 2019 @ 3:52 pm |
Re “Actually, I’m leaning more towards the new-comers. Although I may be “over the hill,” I still like the new and different and even revolutionary things that the younger generation offers.” You and me both! :o)
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Comment by Steve Ruis — June 1, 2019 @ 7:21 am |
Oh no! Not Joe. I’m with Grog on Joe and Hi-Larry. Jeebus, that old gal is still bitching on how the Russians stole her coronation moment. From what have tried to keep up with, even farcebook said that the Russian bots only spent less than $500,000.00 to do that.
If this is true, we cannot say for certain, then we (the US of A) need to take lessons from them. ‘Merikkka spent millions to mess with the Ukraine alone.
I’d prefer a viable third party. The donkey gang and the elephant gang are in my opinion (no, it is not humble) is that they are just the two sides of the very same war party coin.
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Comment by Walter Kronkat — May 31, 2019 @ 2:58 pm |
While you have a good point, a third party vote will hand it to trump for 4 more years and I don’t know if we can survive that.
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 31, 2019 @ 3:50 pm |
There goes my oxygen starved brain again. I didn’t mean a current third party,unless the Peace and Freedom Party was on all 50 states ballots. What I should have explained better is that I would have had the country have more than the 2 we are stuck with. I know they don’t help much, even old Teddy R. could not do it about 100 years ago. Yep, his Bull Moose Party. Man that snake Woodrow sure messed with the country. His re-election slogan; “He kept us out of war”. Soon as he is back in the top job, he sends working class and poor ‘Merikkkans off to that slaughter house/family feud in Europe.
I suppose I can be nasty and tell you I may not even be here for the next election, but, and this IS my own persona; truth, I fear for those who may have to try an make it through another 4 years of the orange haired rodent. It is the children who were brought into this world since I started writing this comment that have my deepest compassion. I was not a hippy but still remember many of the old posters/slogans from then. (I was doing a 4 year study with USMC-University of Science, Music, and Culture at the time. Yes, Vietnam war vet, me). Like this one; War is unhealthy for children and other living things.
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Comment by Walter Kronkat — May 31, 2019 @ 4:05 pm |
Thanks…get it now😊
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Comment by maryplumbago — May 31, 2019 @ 4:20 pm |
I don’t think Biden is the best option (meaning I hope someone better emerges) but almost anyone would be better the Trump.
The question is who. I’m afraid most of the candidates running in the top in the polls are in the Senate or House except for Buttigieg and Beto. The history of people getting elected President from the House or Senate isn’t good. They seem too embedded in the status quo for much of the electorate. Obama is an exception but then he was barely in the Senate before he began running for President and the country was in a complete economic meltdown.
I have soured somewhat on Beto and he was in Congress. Buttigieg is great but is the country ready for him? I didn’t think the country was ready for Obama but I voted for him, misjudged the country, and again the country was in an economic meltdown.
So nobody has quite grabbed me yet although I sent a little bit of money to the Harris campaign. I could easily go with Buttigieg too and may send some money his way.
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Comment by James Cross — June 1, 2019 @ 10:21 am |
Anyone who does not represent the status quo and has two brain cells to rub together can be Trump, so I could go with your choices easily. But our big problem is the status quo and the inertia in it. And the inertia is not static, there are all of the rich plutocrats inside of it pushing and pushing.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — June 2, 2019 @ 9:20 am |
Trump – a well-connected New York billionaire (or so he says) – was never really the outsider he made himself out to be, and only looked like a change from the Democrats and the very traditionally Democratic – if female, for once – standard bearer Hillary Clinton.
But in 2020, it would be really hard for Trump to claim to be an outsider trying to disrupt the system when he’s literally is in charge of the system. Of course, he will still make that claim and, of course, will convince his base, just like he could convince them of anything – but it will be a harder sell outside of his base.
Biden isn’t much of an outsider either – he’s a former insider, but running against a current insider he does benefit from some outsider advantage, just like any other Democrat. He’s not my preferred candidate, but he has the name recognition and has the promise of change that’s not a threateningly drastic change some other candidates might represent.
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Comment by List of X — June 13, 2019 @ 12:31 am |
I think people want drastic change. What has been offered by our two corporate parties has ravaged the middle class and poor. They may just want to burn it all down at one extreme and vote for someone very progressive at the other.
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Comment by Steve Ruis — June 13, 2019 @ 10:10 am |