Class Warfare Blog

July 25, 2018

Why Are We Still Discussing Contraception? (Hint: Religion)

Contraception has still been around for a very long time, and yet we are still debating the topic and are passing laws regulating it. Of course the reason for this is religion.

In the Muslim world, they are still in a phase in which, as a religion, they are trying to out populate the other religions it competes with. This was a phase for Christianity, too, a phase we haven’t entirely left.

Now, realize that if the radical religionists get their way, they will use state power to regulate contraception, as well as other sex-related topics and, I suspect there are reasons to believe you will not like it. As just an example of what to expect, should the most recent Antonin Scalia clone gets hoisted to the US Supreme Court, Louisiana has already passed a law that takes effect when Roe v. Wade is overturned in the SCOTUS. That law makes abortion a crime, sending everyone involved to jail with large fines attached, e.g. if a daughter is raped and her mother or father helps her get an abortion, the parent, the child, and the doctor are all heading for the slammer.

You may have noticed that states like Louisiana have coerced abortion clinics out of existence in their states, making the operation almost unavailable if you are poor and can’t travel out of state already. (As an aside, I wonder if the promoters of these laws have compared the birth rates of their state’s populations. The “white” birth rate is the lowest, hence they are speeding along the path to becoming a “white-minority” state.

Okay, back to the original topic. where did these anti-contraception ideas come from? The answer, of course, is Christianity (in the U.S.). So where did the Christians get their ideas? well, it wasn’t from scripture. Their scripture states that a baby becomes a “person” when they inhale the breath of life just after they are born. This hasn’t stopped the Christians from trying to pass a bogus law declaring the baby is a person at conception. (Once the pregnancy test shows blue, register the child for a Social Security number and claim then as a dependent on your tax returns. With the savings, go to another state for an abortion and you will have a “State funded abortion” whether they want it or not. Just sayin’.)

I have been paying more attention to church history of late and that history clearly shows the evolution of the churches stance toward sex and contraception. These ideas, not to be found in scripture, were created by Church Fathers like Paul and Augustine and, well, the usual crowd. Most of these people make clear that they believed that the most desirable state for Christians was celibacy. Augustine’s battles over his sexual nature make an interesting study of self-inflicted psychological wounds.

These people were, of course, unmarried for which fact they made self-serving excuses. Imagine these “holy men,” not at all likely to be much fun. They are overly serious, overly religious, and obsessed … not exactly marriage material. If they ever did have sex, each occurrence was probably the equivalent of a teenaged boy’s first sexual experience, that is to say explosive and overwhelming. They never got to the stage where sex with a committed partner becomes a gentle, affirmation of their relationship. So, they equated sex with lust, a cardinal sin. So, they started making rules about a subject they knew almost nothing about and which they mischaracterized from the beginning. At least the Quakers had the grace to die out, but the early Christians were playing the political dominance game, where the church with the most followers “wins,” just as Muslims are doing now.

The rather stern Protestant inheritors of these positions have accepted them, even though they are based in Catholic theology, and run with the ball. This is hardly surprising as the conservative Protestants are responsible for the Catholic majority on the Supreme Court. (Shush, don’t tell anyone, you’ll let the cat out of the bag.)

How we continue to let celibate clergymen dictate to us is beyond me. But then the church is hardly democratic. The only appeals they make to democracy is asking to be let to vote upon whether the U.S. should be declared a Christian nation.

This ridiculous demand can be quashed by a simple ballot. The first question is: “Should the U.S. be declared a Christian Nation (yes or no)? The second question is “Which denomination (Mormon, Scientologist, Catholic, Baptist, Southern Baptist, Charismatic, Quaker, Episcopalian, Seventh Day Adventist, and 10,000 more)? (check one).

The whole idea of the separation of church and state is to keep items of religion off of the ballot! The evangelical churches around the time of the adoption of the Constitution knew this as they were in a small minority at the time and would have been voted into obscurity. Better a level playing field for all than to give the currently popular churches the state power to collect tithes, etc.  Now that they are ascendant in conservative political circles, now they want to vote.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

If you want to see how states with endorsed religions behave, just look at history. It isn’t pretty. Why would they want this? I guess it is because they are still following tradition … traditions that were invented by lustful celibates thousands of years ago.

And, as I have been saying over and over: a religion will not continue to exist unless it coerces the labor of the masses to the benefit of the secular and religious elites. In the realm of sex, those being coerced are women. Rules made by men who did not and do not understand women or sex are still being used to control women. Women are to be “used” as vessels for men’s seed, and as caregivers to children, and then as a support system for their girl children’s children. That’s it. Oh, and clean the house and cook dinner and don’t forget to pick up my dry cleaning.

Disgusting.

Oh, and they are winning right now. If they break down the wall between church and state, get ready for religious wars.

21 Comments »

  1. You wrote: Women are to be “used” as vessels for men’s seed …

    I know I don’t need to tell you about the male sex drive. Yet this is completely ignored when it comes to the issue of abortion. So long as the man gets his kicks, it matters not that he might leave his “seed” within the woman at a time when her “egg” is in a receiving mode. He’s off on his merry way and the fertile woman is left with the “aftereffects.” This is not to say the woman hasn’t played a role, but if, for whatever reason, she feels she’s not in the place to raise a child, she is put into the unforgiving position of doing so anyway.

    Like you said, rules made by men …

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    Comment by Nan — July 25, 2018 @ 12:14 pm | Reply

    • Obviously I do agree, but men are also controlling enough to want to make sure their children are, well, *their *children. (Lock her up, lock her up! wasn’t invented for Hillary.) A recent genomic study in GB showed that around 5% of births were from men other than whom the women were married to. I really wish we had a more enlightened attitude toward sex and sexual pleasure … .

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 25, 2018 @ 12:24 pm | Reply

  2. Contraception encourages sexual activity for fun… and that’s BAD!

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    Comment by john zande — July 25, 2018 @ 2:13 pm | Reply

    • Poor woman. (And I think you know why I said that.)

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      Comment by Nan — July 25, 2018 @ 3:24 pm | Reply

    • How utterly SCARY it is for humanity to think outside the box and maybe… just MAYBE discover much, MUCH better ways of living and living together! What a novel idea, huh? 🙄

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — July 25, 2018 @ 6:30 pm | Reply

    • Yeah, but they don’t run on the anti-fun platform … I wonder why?

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 26, 2018 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  3. As I am still alive, I want to add my own opinion to this topic. Personally, I do not think the man has any input/say at all into the woman getting an abortion if she wants to do so. I may go as far as letting him know he got the woman pregnant but that is the limit. He won’t be carrying the fetus for 9 months so he gets no say in what happens. Dad raised me to respect women. As has been said by countless women for untold time; if men got pregnant, there would be far fewer kids in this world. Hells bells, we may have gone extinct!
    Religion is a choice one makes. Yes, yes, I know, it gets crammed down our throats when we are kids. Still, some decent education, a bit of real reading time at a library, and one can get past that stuff and realize how much nicer life is without all that baggage.
    I am 100,000% certain that the old ‘golden rule’; treat others the way you want to be treated predates every religion humans have ever invented. Man invented gods to stop kids like I was and continue to be from asking difficult questions. Dad and granddad, many long generations ago got so sick of not being able to give me answers that I’d accept, they invented god as THE ultimate answer. Well, OK, that worked on me until I was about 13/14 years old. Yeah, then hell broke free and so did I.

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    Comment by Walter Kronkat — July 25, 2018 @ 4:14 pm | Reply

    • I agree to some extent. I think the father has a “say” along with any one else *asked *to chime in (parents, financial sponsors, clergy, doctors, etc.) as one of the two people who have a say without being asked. But he should never have the final “say,” for the reasons you quote, namely, like the ham and egg breakfast, the chicken only makes a contribution, the pig makes a commitment.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 26, 2018 @ 8:55 am | Reply

  4. If I may Steve, from my 4-part series on Agnotology:

    Dr. Nancy Tuana reasons that what a group or person knows cannot fully be appreciated unless the unknowns are equally appreciated and who the knowledge or ignorance benefits or handicaps. It is an area that Dr. Tuana says:

    “Female sexuality is a particularly fertile area for tracking the intersections of power/knowledge-ignorance. Scientific and commonsense knowledge of female orgasm has a history that provides a rich lens for understanding the importance of explicitly including epistemologies of ignorance alongside our theories of knowledge.”

    Dr. Tuana closely examines seven subjects concerning women’s bodies and pleasures for a contemporary understanding: Epistemologies of Orgasms, Unveiling the Clitoris, Fingering Truth, The Issue of Pleasure, The Either/Or of Women’s Orgasms, Sisterhood Is Powerful, and finally Bodies and Pleasures.

    […]

    Abortifacients and the Making of More Ignorance

    It is as easy as sipping a cup of Pride of Barbados herbal tea and washing herself with the same herb/flower in a morning bath. Doing this shortly after intercourse, according to secret ancient medicine in the Caribbean islands, prevents conception safely and comfortably. In fact, a woman could do this repeatedly two or three days after intercourse accomplishing more assured results. Why has this profound medical knowledge NOT been circulated around the world, especially in European civilizations? That is literally the million-dollar question.

    Dr. Tuana and other specialists/experts, like Dr. Londa Schiebinger and Maria Sibylla Merian, go into the history of European social norms between 1500 — 1899. Though I’m truncating this greatly, Dr. Tuana basically states, and I’m paraphrasing:

    There is simply no other more pleasant way of putting it. Women, in the Age of Discovery, were breeders, meant to bolster the wealth and resources of male nations. For European states and their foreign colonies, abundant population — both slave and citizen — was to increase production of crops and goods. Domestically large populations filled the armies and navies. It generated workers who would pay substantial taxes and rents. In the empire’s colonies it grew negroes that would push and pad the empire’s wealth. The moral issues surrounding abortifacients were just as centered around a company’s and nation’s wealth-accumulation as it was (or less so) seen in God’s eyes and prosperity for “true believers.”

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — July 25, 2018 @ 6:26 pm | Reply

    • Our culture, our long, long deeply embedded patriarchy — with constantly recurring men like tRumpsky, Putin, Kim Jong-un, Bashar al-Assad, and then those “figures” within societies like Paul Elam or Keegan Hankes, or ANY male with the psychological disorder of gender supremacy (the list is too long) and these “men” are given a platform or medium to spout their vile… we will continue to have this infectious plague.

      I WISH we could just put these Neanderthals into a huge octagon fenced ring and let them beat each other to pulps, then execute the last one standing. But I guess that would be too barbaric, huh? 🙄 Natural selection takes too long. Grrrrrrrr. 😖

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — July 25, 2018 @ 6:59 pm | Reply

      • Most of those you quote wouldn’t last in a pillow fight. They only talk a macho game, they need others to actual do anything.

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — July 26, 2018 @ 9:04 am | Reply

        • Yes, it is indeed the proverbial little mad-man behind the green curtain, pulling on the levers, etc, ala the Wizard of Oz.

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          Comment by Professor Taboo — July 26, 2018 @ 11:01 am | Reply

    • Agreed, the distortions our culture has created make everything worse. There was a time when births to the royal couple in England had to be witnessed (by a great many political factions) to ensure the baby was the rightful baby and not a substitute. This nonsense is fueled by ideas of inheritance (Why should that baby be king or queen; in what way is it qualified?), blood magic (in the Bible and almost all other old wisdom books, blood has magic in it).

      Hitler’s standard of Aryan acceptance is there could be no Jews going back to someone’s grandparents. Boy, that Jewish blood must be potent magic! Same with Black blood in the U.S., a small amount of Black blood was way more powerful than an entire body of white blood.

      Basically, we use any bullshit argument that floats up to justify what we want. Lack power, make someone else powerless and you have someone to lord it over. It’s cool, Christians still say that this is what their god intended all marriages to be.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 26, 2018 @ 9:02 am | Reply

  5. Anti-abortion attitudes themselves have been purposely encouraged by those who could gain politically by exploiting them (that’s the origin of the Religious Right), and then after that, some of those who were against contraception for other reasons (in America, that mostly means Catholics) started promoting outright lies to encourage the belief that contraception is abortion.

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    Comment by D.T. Nova — July 25, 2018 @ 8:51 pm | Reply

    • That lie being just one of a very large set.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 26, 2018 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  6. I’ve noticed that Christians say that the bible says lots of things that it clearly does not say. So this is no shock to me.

    That the churches are in hyper-recruitment mode and panicking is evidence that they are trying to regain their foothold. We will not let them!

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    Comment by thespartanatheist — August 23, 2018 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

    • I sure hope so! Right now we are backsliding on many fronts and getting back to square one will take some time.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 24, 2018 @ 10:43 am | Reply


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