Class Warfare Blog

June 14, 2018

What Harm Does It Do?

Often when the topic of religion comes up in online and other debates a point pushed is “It is harmless. What harm does it do?” I mentioned in a recent post that I have been working my way through Jerry Coyne’s Faith Versus Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible (Penguin Publishing Group, Kindle Edition). As to what harm religion does, Professor Coyne offered this rather brilliant quotation:

“John Shimkus, a congressman from Illinois, went even further, quoting from the Book of Genesis when testifying in 2009 before the House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment:

Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from childhood, and never again will I destroy all living creatures as I have done. As long as the Earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease’ [Genesis 8: 21– 22]. I believe that’s the infallible word of God, and that’s the way it’s going to be toward his creation. . . . The Earth will end only when God declares it’s time to be over. Man will not destroy this Earth. This Earth will not be destroyed by a flood. I appreciate having panelists here who are men of faith, and we can get into the theological discourse of that position. But I do believe God’s word is infallible, unchanging, perfect.

Arrogance on display. I get to punch this punching bag as he is from my home state.

Regarding “The Earth will end only when God declares it’s time to be over.” This is scripture according to this person. Christian scripture says no such thing. And we are not talking about Earth ending, we are talking about leaving enough resources for our children to have lives that are relatively full. If you are religious, do you want your children living in squalor and danger as they await the Second Coming?

Regarding “Man will not destroy this Earth.” Of course not, it is fucking planet. We do not have the means to destroy it. But we can make it almost impossible for it to support a population of people of any size if we keep going in the rapacious manner we have been going. We currently harvest nature’s bounty, for profit, until the harvested resource is all used up, then we go make money some other way. Think about all of the abundant fishing sites that no longer have any fish to catch or lakes that have had all of their water “diverted.” Think about soils so depleted they won’t grow anything any more. There are spots in the Gulf of Mexico that no longer support life (they are called “Dead Zones”) because of all of the agricultural chemical runoff funneled to it by the Mississippi River. None of these actions will “end the Earth” but a few more like them will end life on Earth as we know it.

Regarding “This Earth will not be destroyed by a flood.” Scripture doesn’t say anything about destroying half of Florida or the coastal Northeast which will be underwater in less than 100 years. The Earth will not be destroyed, it says, but that claim doesn’t cover just the coastal plains; they can “die” any time.

So, according to this moron, our climate change playbook is to be a 2-2500 year old book that has not a single correct scientific fact in it. Ah, the power of faith, especially in an ignoramus with just enough brain cells to get elected to state office with the help of his Christian friends.

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  1. Saadly more and more of them did get elected and are trying to get elected. Tony Perkins just announced an initiative with huge money behind it to get even more fundamental christians elected. To return our nation to its christian moral foundations and to be the christian nation it was founded to be. They don’t even care that it never was to be a christian nation. They just declare it as fact and think that makes it a fact. I am worried about the country right now. I have to live in it and religions have not been kind to people like me. Hugs

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    Comment by Scottie — June 14, 2018 @ 8:59 am | Reply

    • I am right there beside you, Scottie. This is far worse that I suspected. But awfulizing won’t get the job done and I do not trust the Democrats to mound a spirited defense of our democracy as they are in the pockets of the wealthy almost as much as the Repubs.

      On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — June 14, 2018 @ 9:07 am | Reply

    • If I may Steve and Scottie, from my blog-series A Collective Imperative as of 2012 the wealthiest people by nation in the entire world…

      The world is indeed controlled by about 200-300 people/families. Think of that percentage of a planet with 7.6-billion humans.

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      Comment by Professor Taboo — June 14, 2018 @ 10:36 am | Reply

      • Wow, how do I get to be one of those families. I am getting a little tired of being working poor with no control over anything, not even my cats. 😃😄😉😎 Hugs

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        Comment by Scottie — June 14, 2018 @ 10:45 am | Reply

        • Hahahaha! Your cats!? 😮 Have you tried any cat-nip? 😛

          Yeah, don’t be fooled by the myths the rich megalomaniacs of the world try to sell you about liberty or democracy or their empathy — unless of course it is someone like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet — for humanity. The hard cold fact is that every single human being has very minimal basic needs to survive, a bit more to live quite comfortably, and then EVERYTHING ELSE is pure excess! Period.

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          Comment by Professor Taboo — June 14, 2018 @ 10:53 am | Reply

          • I agree. History has shown we all did better as a country and economically when the wealthy were taxed at a much higher rate adn the middle class was much wider range.. There was more ability to buy things and so that gave more work to make things or to have service jobs. Marc Cuban once said giving him a tax break was stupid because there was only so many shirts and pants he could buy and only so many cars he could drive. He said alone he did not move the economy. I liked his TED talk. In fact I had way more disposable income when I was young and in the military. I had housing and food provided and got extra for if I needed to provide my own food. Then I came home and had to provide those things for myself and even making a lot more money than I did in the military it was a struggle at times. Thanks. Hugs

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            Comment by Scottie — June 14, 2018 @ 11:15 am | Reply

            • Not to get too far off topic and stay close to Steve’s post here, but we can also bring attention to a modern trend in the religious U.S. called Prosperity Theology/Gospel, where those thousands/millions of Fundy Christians utterly TWIST and distort the true teachings of a Sectarian Nasoraean and highlight (cherry-pick) or “reinterpret” many passages into Godly “blessings” of wealth from God — that God favors only those who mimick His ways, commandments, and words. Due to all the tax and government breaks churches already receive in the U.S., those church staff and members are getting EXTREMELY wealthy. My ex-wife and her husband are long-time members of one of these churches (an Olsteen spin-off cuz they got too massive). So they build opulent sports stadium-sized churches and parking lots to match in order to hold the thousands of Benzes, BMWs, Lexis’, Alpha-Romeos, etc, etc. Then drive 1-2 miles in just about any direction and you’ll find slums or near slums. Is it any wonder that our public programs struggle to provide year after year, decade after decade — and one sector of the population bitches and bitches about “Big Government” while driving their Benz out of the parking lots of their Prosperity Theology church.

              But to be fair it isn’t an exclusively Christian revulsion. It’s human nature really. From one of my all-time favorite Nobel Prize winning Economist:

              The top 1 percent have the best houses, the best educations, the best doctors, and the best lifestyles, but there is one thing that money doesn’t seem to have bought: an understanding that their fate is bound up with how the other 99 percent live. Throughout history, this has been something that the top 1 percent eventually do learn. Often, however, they learn it too late. — Joseph Stiglitz

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              Comment by Professor Taboo — June 14, 2018 @ 11:37 am | Reply

      • Yeah, and we worship capitalism which produces such idiocies!

        On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — June 15, 2018 @ 8:35 am | Reply

  2. In family therapy and psychology, experts now know that children usually mimick (at least for their child, adolescent, and teenage years) their parents; girls their mother, boys their father. Those patterns sometimes extend out to aunts and uncles as well that are involved in the family.

    Yahweh, the God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims, is unequivocally a very violent bloodthirsty God with little to no regard to Earth, or Satan’s dominion according to vague Scripture passages and Medieval theology. It’s no surprise that His followers pickup the same habits and behaviors to other humans and this planet. For starters: 1 Samuel 15:3.

    Between Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges Yahweh (via His blind obedient faithers) slaughtered or sanctioned the slaughter of some 25,000,000 humans. * HAH! In fact, Hitler had NOTHING on Yahweh!

    * — specific bible passages can be gladly provided should anyone want to see/read for themselves. 🙂

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    Comment by Professor Taboo — June 14, 2018 @ 10:18 am | Reply


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