Class Warfare Blog

August 8, 2017

Why Creationists Insist the World is Only 6000 Years Old

Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, the creationists who believe in a 6000 year old Earth are called Young Earth Creationists to distinguish them from the others of their ilk. So I am referring to these chaps (they always seem to be men; whether this is due to a manifestation of Christian misogyny or a manifestation of female sensibility, I can’t say).

And the idea of a “young earth” is not just confined to people who label themselves as Young Earth Creationists. If you watch any of the very numerous apologist videos, you will see their positions aped very frequently. In essence, if you believe in the literal truth of the Bible, you are a YEC.

Onward and upward!

As to why the insistence on this 6000 year age for the Earth, I assume some of it is to protect their assumption that the Bible cannot be wrong, but underlying that their narrative has problems if the Earth is not so young. If, after creation, Adam and Eve are shooed off to go forth and multiply but not to darken the door of his garden again by Yahweh, Jesus comes along after about 4000 of the six thousand years. Jesus is the “fix” for the problem of people not being in their god’s good graces. So, for 4000 years, Yahweh is observing to see what his creatures will do.

After about 1600 years or so, Yahweh is so disgusted with what he was seeing that he caused the Great Flood and wiped out 99.99999% of living humans and all land animals and plants, etc. He basically wiped the slate clean for a do over. Then Yahweh sits down on his throne to see what will happen next. After about another 2500 years, he decides to manifest as Jesus and give people a way out. Now this narrative time line seems reasonable. While 2500 years seems like a long time to us, it is not in the march of human progress and certainly not much time to an immortal being (or one for whom time does not count).

But wait, there’s more!

Consider how different things are if we take what evidence we have from nature and apply the same narrative. Modern humans seem to have cropped up (along side other hominids) about 300,000 years ago. So if that is the moment of creation, then instead of Yahweh waiting 1600 years to make his “Flush them, flush them all!” decision and the Great Flood, He waited 295,600 years before his big decision. During 300 millennia, a lot of people lived and died, many miserably from diseases no one dies of any more. None were offered the religious instruction that would provide admittance into Heaven, so apparently all were sent to Hell and have been roasting there for thousands upon thousand of years. So, it takes Yahweh almost 300,000 years to see that humanity is utterly depraved and must be wiped off the face of the planet, and then another 2500 years to take pity on the second wave humans and offer up himself as a sacrifice to himself (still puzzling) to let many, but not all, off the hook.

For an omniscient being who has past, present, and future all laid out in front of him, why the wait? This timeline shows a god who is either off doing errands or disinterested or indifferent or who actually likes the suffering He sees. This behavior doesn’t exactly line up well with an “all good” god.

If one opens oneself up to such a story by admitting the Earth and humanity are both much older than the Bible implies (it does not state, just implies) one finds a devastatingly absent god who allows great suffering in people who do not even have the language skills to be able to transmit the lesson of “The Fall” or the “cure” for the consequences.

That is reason enough to insist on a 6000 year old Earth. And for people who believe in magic, nothing is impossible.

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As an aside, I find the ignorance of many (very many) of these Christian apologists posting videos on the Internet to be appalling. I expect their knowledge of science to be weak to nonexistent, but their understanding of logic and even of their own scriptures is also very weak. They seem, like the singers of other people’s songs, to be repeating words that are not theirs, just adding whatever flair they bring to the table because of their calling to do that work. So, like song stylists, they are argument stylists, but end up being quite inept, because there are no argument producers, career managers, recording studios, etc. for these amateurs, they almost always get it wrong. They assume their arguments are devastating because they found them convincing (being already convinced). They seem not to bother to try to understand why others found them specious or that out they had been disproved decades or centuries ago.

Note If you are wondering why diatribes against mainstream religion are being offered in a Class Warfare blog, I argue that religion is being used as a tool of the class war. Can you see how the rich and powerful can support a creed that claims you are unworthy and sinful, that your reward will not be in this world, but in the next, while they reaps their rewards in this world and do not bother with scriptures that address warn how rich people will not get into Heaven. They know that such “knowledge” is for the rubes. They think if you will believe “that stuff” you will have no trouble believing the propaganda they dream up (trickle down economics … right …).

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    Comment by john zande — August 8, 2017 @ 2:12 pm | Reply

    • I thought they were camel herders.

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      Comment by The Pink Agendist — August 8, 2017 @ 4:50 pm | Reply

      • Another falsehood. Camels only made it onto the Levant in 900 BCE, a thousand years after the Patriarchal age, when they were said to be everywhere in enormous herds.

        Damn facts!

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        Comment by john zande — August 8, 2017 @ 6:31 pm | Reply

      • Actually the Bible refers to camels, several centuries before there were any in that region.

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — August 8, 2017 @ 9:12 pm | Reply

        • Like ten centuries too early, and apparently in their tens-of-thousands 🙂

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          Comment by john zande — August 9, 2017 @ 12:00 pm | Reply

  2. Never underestimate the capacity for the religious to whitewash away or completely ignore the facts. Facts are the enemy, the fantasy takes precedence over all.

    Enjoyed the post.

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    Comment by shelldigger — August 10, 2017 @ 5:43 am | Reply

  3. I often find that atheists and agnostics tend to know more about a wide section of a variety of religions than most believers. Being people who require logical explanation (generally speaking) they actually research their topics with an enquiring mind, often reeling off reams of religious text to make their point, which is often answered with anecdotes concerning the respondents emotional feelings.

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    Comment by theeditorsjournal — August 23, 2017 @ 7:05 pm | Reply

    • I understand that many creationists want their faith to stand for their understanding of the world (And I wish them good luck with that.) but I am gobsmacked that they want their faith to stand for my understanding of the world. If they were to just shut up about it, all the ninnyhammers like me wouldn’t know what they were telling people from their pulpits. But, no, they have to try to get state governments to include their nonsense in public classrooms, etc.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — August 24, 2017 @ 10:53 am | Reply

      • Which is another telling thing about them. They can’t do their thing in isolation and peace, you have to do it with them or… I know …let’s go to war.

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        Comment by theeditorsjournal — August 27, 2017 @ 3:12 am | Reply


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