Uncommon Sense

July 17, 2017

Hulk, No, God Smash!

Filed under: Morality,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 9:13 am
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I quote Persedeplume (of MyDoorIsAjar):
I’d like to meet the god who isn’t angry, or coming back angry, or about to wreak retribution on some massive scale. I’d like to think we can get along without unnecessary suffering. I’d like to think life is hard enough and the “rite of passage” where we’re all accepted as adults is to have done it with grace, dignity, help from our friends and family, and love.”

We seem to prefer such angry gods, even angry gods with the label “the god of love.” One philosopher points out that we respect power and anytime a god does something massively powerful, we respond to the exhibition of power, even if we bear the brunt of that power.

The dominant religion in this country is basically incoherent … except that the believers believe that their god has immense power to grant boons and to punish. If a boon is granted, then we are supposed to be grateful. If we suffer from some such display of power, then we are being punished for being bad. (Pat Robertson blamed the tsunami in Indonesia on homosexual sinners.) So, no matter what happens to us, it is due to their god’s actions.

This very same religion claims that a son of their god was sacrificed to absolve us of our sins (sins being disobedience of their god’s wishes). Later they claimed that the “son of god” was really their god himself (in disguise?). I have yet to see how this human sacrifice has any effect on anything. Was the suffering of the crucifixion equal to all of the suffering of all of the innocents up to that time? Apparently not. It was merely symbolic. So, how does symbolic suffering of an innocent person wipe away the criminal records of all of us? While the symbology is painted vividly (our sins were “washed away” by the blood of Christ, etc.) it still makes no sense. How did this action pay our fines, or serve our sentences for us?

And, as I have argued before, the god Jesus could not die, only his human wrapper could, and what is one more human sacrifice to the God of Abraham, who once directed King David to take a census of his men and when David did that, his god upbraids him and punishes him for counting what is not his (they were his god’s soldiers, not David’s, don’t you see). So, David is punished by his god slaughtering 70,000 of his soldiers! I suspect David also had to go to bed without supper that night. There seems to be no record of what the 70,000 felt, nor do we know what happened to them in the afterlife. (Are they still burning in the Lake of Fire or shambling around in the dark of Sheol?)

So, if David’s “crime” of following his god’s directives was salved with 70,000 deaths, what could one death do for all of humanity? Especially when you consider that neither the god nor his offspring died, just the human wrapper. Plus, even after this “real death” experience, that wrapper got to live again. What happened to it when the son of god rose to Heaven isn’t explained. Is Heaven air conditioned? Is there food for a human body? Does Jesus have to inhabit the body 24-7 and does it just stand idle when he does not? There are just so many issues not covered by scripture.


  1. “David also had to go to bed without supper that night. ” Now that’s funny.
    You ask many good questions Steve.


    Comment by persedeplume — July 18, 2017 @ 12:51 am | Reply

    • And you inspired them (in this case).


      On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:


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      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 18, 2017 @ 6:17 am | Reply

  2. I we end the carnage, against the Christian will, will that be gods will too?


    Comment by jiminpanama — July 18, 2017 @ 9:06 pm | Reply

    • Everything that happens is their god’s will, according to them.

      On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 18, 2017 @ 9:09 pm | Reply

      • Yes Steve. A fiend of mine died and he willed me his truck. My neighbor told me god is sure being good to me. I told him someone had to die for this, and he told me that it’s ok, that he is wrapped in the arms of Jesus now. Jesus!


        Comment by jiminpanama — July 18, 2017 @ 9:12 pm | Reply

        • I saw a comment on some social media site in which a person needed a half cup of milk to cook a certain recipe and there was exactly a half cup of milk left in fridge … God is good!

          Sometimes the game of ascribing every damned thing that happens to God (except the bad things!) gets downright pathetic.

          On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:


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          Comment by Steve Ruis — July 19, 2017 @ 10:08 am | Reply

  3. An issue I have with it that there is some evidence it has been rewritten over time. And the New Testament vs Old Testament. And so much more…


    Comment by Dr Martina Feyzrakhmanova — July 22, 2017 @ 6:47 pm | Reply

    • At least rewritten by human copyists. One result of this is there are more discrepancies in the manuscript fragments we have of those scriptures than there are words in those scriptures. Not exactly a “clean” source of wisdom.


      Comment by Steve Ruis — July 23, 2017 @ 7:42 am | Reply

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