Class Warfare Blog

March 31, 2017

Finding Jesus … Holy Shit: Follow-up

CNN blurb for the series: Finding Jesus discovers fascinating new insights into the historical Jesus, utilizing the latest scientific techniques and archaeological research.

I recently posted regarding watching an episode of a CNN series called “Finding Jesus: Faith, Fact, Forgery.” In this episode (S1, E9) the title of which is “The Childhood Home of Jesus” we were led to consider whether said home had actually been found. The sole line of evidence for this “discovery” was a reference in a 7th C. document about Nazareth which referred to two churches, one of which was still in existence, the other was lost. The other was reputedly built upon the ruins of Jesus’ family home!

An archeologist, Ken Dark, had been invited to view the ruins beneath the Sisters of Nazareth Convent which was in a building “said to be built upon the ruins of a church.” The examination of the catacombs under that building did indicate a former church being there but also there were “walls” within the walls indicating that the church might have been built upon the ruins of a house!

So the question got asked for the first time: “Was this the childhood home of Jesus of Nazareth?”

The motivation for the asking of this question is clear right off of the bat as a Jesuit cleric admits that if it were that house, then Jesus was not a fictional character, that “He led a real life.”

Whoa, quite a bit of validation there, I would say.

Let’s stop to consider if such an identification is possible. What they managed to prove so far is that a 7th C. document about Nazareth claimed a church was built upon what were claimed to be the ruins of Jesus’ family home. The authenticity of that document wasn’t claimed to have been corroborated, nor was any other documentation provided. But, what if a chain of documents leading back to the appropriate time were found, that could be authenticated, identified the site as that home, the home of an artisan named Joseph. Since that name was quite common, how could one verify one had the right one? Documents would not have included the names of spouses and children surely. There could have been two people with the same name, ten years apart, or twenty, or thirty that occupied the house. How would you know which was which?

If they found a message carved into the stone of the house’s original foundation that said : “This is the home of Yahushua bar Joseph.” Would that prove anything? The answer is always “no” because of the perfidy of human beings. If someone built a church on the foundation left of a house and that church got into financial trouble, could you not imagine someone carving that message into the stone, weathering it a bit, and then announcing the miracle of miracles, the discovery of Jesus’ childhood home, and reap a large number of new members to support that church.

Could you honestly say that a chain of documents could not be forged? (Such a chain is useless in any case as such documents were not made, let alone kept.)

My point is that the entire question is dishonest.

There is no possibility of identifying any common building from that long ago. Large, ornate public buildings might be identified from written descriptions. Other buildings might be identified from their structures as being a forge or a stable for horses or barracks for soldiers, but the home of a fairly ordinary person? Zero chance.

So, you have to ask yourself what the purpose of such a TV show is. What possible “new insights into the historical Jesus, utilizing the latest scientific techniques and archaeological research” could be had from such a bogus search? Apparently the purpose of the show is to make money off of gullible consumers of such shows. There is no scientific purpose, nor is there an historical, or archaeological, purpose for such a speculation.

It is the equivalent of going to the possible site of Goliath and David’s epic possible individual combat and picking up a stone asking: “Is this the stone that David used to slay the warrior Goliath?” Or could it have been ancient aliens?

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13 Comments »

  1. Also, if Jesus’ home was somehow revered, and maintained as some sort of object of worship, then there would have been a mention of that in the gospels, or by Josephsus who only lived 20 miles up the road.

    I think the producers and writers might have been watching a little too much Glenn Beck.

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    Comment by john zande — March 31, 2017 @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  2. The foolishness abounds … such absurdity … I am just trying stay focused on praying at all the temple shrine ruins where Jesus took a shit … keeps me sane.

    I thank you, Steve, for your faithful reporting on their reporting. You may be the only surging journalist of note in America.

    Bet if you started advertising prayer cloths with your hand print for sale on this site that you’d make a bloody fortune!

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    Comment by Zach — March 31, 2017 @ 11:56 pm | Reply

    • Surving, not surging

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      Comment by Zach — March 31, 2017 @ 11:57 pm | Reply

    • And these things just don’t happen on TV! I recently spilled a beer and then Jesus appeared to me!

      On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — April 1, 2017 @ 7:33 am | Reply

      • Why every Christian should increase their alcohol consumption!

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        Comment by Zach — April 1, 2017 @ 7:36 am | Reply

        • Beer is proof the God wants us to be happy.–Benjamin Franklin

          Proof #378 of the existence of God.

          On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — April 1, 2017 @ 7:44 am | Reply

  3. I think they also found the cloth Jesus was swaddled in. That there is proof!!

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    Comment by jiminpanama — April 1, 2017 @ 8:42 am | Reply

    • Was there an imprint of the Baby Jesus in the cloth. You know, from his nimbus. If you are a baby god, do you have to take the nimbus to school?

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — April 1, 2017 @ 9:03 am | Reply

      • I think yes … and this is the origin of two modern games … Frisbee, and Capture the Flag.

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        Comment by Zach — April 1, 2017 @ 9:08 am | Reply

      • You do take it to school and keep it with your Janbiya. Hidden

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        Comment by jiminpanama — April 1, 2017 @ 9:10 am | Reply

        • I don’t think they allow weapons in kindergarten … maybe in Brooklyn?

          On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — April 1, 2017 @ 9:20 am | Reply

  4. It is the equivalent of going to the possible site of Goliath and David’s epic possible individual combat and picking up a stone asking: “Is this the stone that David used to slay the warrior Goliath?”

    Touché!

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    Comment by Nan — April 1, 2017 @ 11:07 am | Reply


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