Class Warfare Blog

January 31, 2017

Why Conservatives Hate Unions, Part 3451

So, which state in the U.S. has the largest, most thriving economy, right now? Silly question! It is California. Governor Brown has eliminated their massive budget woes, while dealing with a massive drought (a really big problem in an agricultural state), and dealing with the after effects of the Great Recession. Employment is way up. Wages are up. All is good.

One other thing that California leads the country in is … wait for it … union jobs. The number and percentage of union jobs lead the country.

But … but … wait, conservatives have been telling us for years that unions are bad for the country, bad for us, bad, bad, bad … and they still are saying it (the President never fails to mention how bad teacher’s unions are when he addresses education).

Gosh, do you think they might have a hidden agenda?

Golly, I guess I am kinda curious about why they would oppose in a blanket fashion, organizations devoted to helping working people. All unions are bad, they say, there are no good unions and bad unions, all unions are bad, bad, bad.

I wonder what they could possibly have against working people?

May I suggest one answer to that particular question: they dislike the fact that they have to pay workers for their labor. They would be much happier if they did not. And failing the return of outright slavery, their idea of a minimum wage is just that: wages should be the minimum that could possibly be paid. The idea that it be illegal to pay below the minimum wage makes them cry. And the idea of raising the minimum wage makes their head’s explode. Why, why … paying more to laborers would reduce profits and you know how bad that would be!

Really, how bad? Maybe the Walton kids would have one billion less to split. Or the Koch brothers wouldn’t be able to afford all of the Congressmen and senators they wanted to buy. It would be really bad!

And California? Don’t look there, say the Conservatives. They’re all freaks. They even like unions!


  1. I used to live in California and yes, it does have some good things going for it. But it’s very expensive to live there. As for unions, I tend to support them. However, I do understand why some people are against them. Case in point: a union leader I heard about (from a reliable source) did pretty much nothing but collect his salary. He fished regularly, took overseas trips, drove a really, really nice car, etc., etc. IOW, he was enjoying the “union dues” that are deducted from the union worker’s salary, which “the union” bargained for. Get my drift?


    Comment by Nan — January 31, 2017 @ 3:01 pm | Reply

    • Gosh, imagine that! There are good unions and bad unions, just like all other social institutions. General policy needs to be based upon general behavior. In general, ahem, union workers get higher wages than non-union workers and workers in areas with strong unions, who are not members of unions get higher wages also. I was turned off by national union corruption in the 1960s but ended up joining a union in the 1970s, because that union was made up of my colleagues and they went to bat for me (not even a member at the time).

      Consider this: is the level of corruption in unions higher or lower than in Congress? I know it is a low standard, but I don’t see anyone trying to eliminate Congress at the moment … drain the swamp, reform the campaign finance system, etc. And that is the attitude I think we need toward unions.

      On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



      Comment by Steve Ruis — February 1, 2017 @ 9:52 am | Reply

      • As I said, I tend to support unions. But I do have a question since I’ve never been a member. This thing about higher wages for union members vs. non-union members … after deducting union dues, does this still hold true? On another line of thought, I do think unions provide other advantages besides wages than benefit workers.


        Comment by Nan — February 1, 2017 @ 12:54 pm | Reply

        • Absolutely. My union dues were about $400 per year. This is chump change. When unions have even higher dues they are often supplying health insurance and other support services the employers do not.

          Good unions provide all kinds of support: contract management is the most important service as it explains what a workers rights are under the contract. In California, if a worker has a dispute with his employer, the union must represent them, legally and otherwise. (This is a fiduciary requirement under law.) Of course, wages are not the only things bargained: working conditions, fringe benefits, etc. are also allowed under most collective bargaining laws. Management rights are also dictated by law and these cannot be infringed upon by the unions.

          In Germany, and many better places in the U.S. (my former job being one of them), management and unions work together for the betterment of the enterprise. In Germany, unions have seats on the Boards of Trustees. German prevents jobs being outsourced except under very certain circumstances. So, German workers are slightly less productive than ours, and slightly higher paid, but they have jobs and they pay taxes. So what if the business owners are merely rich instead of RICH!!!

          The government is supposed to represent the people which includes both the business owner and the workers. Part of the right to do business in a country should include restrictions on what you can do with your labor pool.

          In this country, the government facilitated sending jobs overseas, facilitated the formation of tax havens, heck some states are creating their own tax havens. It is just disgusting.

          On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



          Comment by Steve Ruis — February 1, 2017 @ 1:08 pm | Reply

  2. If I remember correctly, the Republicans actually do like some unions, like police unions or anyone else in law enforcement who supports them.


    Comment by List of X — February 1, 2017 @ 12:16 am | Reply

    • Actually I think they’d rather even police and fireman’s unions did not exist, but they hesitate to say so as it might appear they do not support the policemen and fire fighters.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — February 1, 2017 @ 9:53 am | Reply

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