Class Warfare Blog

December 22, 2016

The Final Tally is In And …

2016 Presidential Election Final Vote Tally

Hillary Clinton 65,844,610

Donald Trump 62,979,636

Others 7,804,213

Trump wins! Trump wins!

… WTF?

When we vote for, say, U.S. Senator, all of the votes in the state get counted, but not any from other states. It doesn’t matter which county or city your are in as long as you are a resident of the state. Ditto, for U.S. Representative: all votes within the district are counted. It doesn’t matter which county you are in or city.

So, explain to me why this is not so for the most important federal office of them all? Do not explain to me why the Electoral College at one time had merit, explain to me why it has merit now.

And, if you argue that the Electoral College has merit, should the concept not be applied to all federal offices?

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14 Comments »

  1. And those totals are before you reckon in all the votes that weren’t counted, including several tens of thousands in and around Detroit.

    You’re right. There’s something very wrong with US democracy, and the electoral college is a symptom of it.

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    Comment by realthog — December 22, 2016 @ 9:47 am | Reply

  2. Short of a parliamentary system in this country, it seems to me that we have nothing but the electoral college to assist in having some semblance of national representation in presidential elections. Sucks. But doing away with it without a new system that promotes effective party alternatives to the ‘one party under the guise of two’ strikes me as not a good option. This needs to happen. Not a clue how we get there.

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    Comment by Zachary — December 22, 2016 @ 9:58 am | Reply

  3. You know what they say~ if voting really mattered, they wouldn’t let you do it…..

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    Comment by persedeplume — December 22, 2016 @ 10:55 am | Reply

    • Precisely

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      Comment by Zachary — December 22, 2016 @ 10:58 am | Reply

    • Awe, I appreciate the quip … but it makes me sad!

      On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — December 22, 2016 @ 11:33 am | Reply

      • It makes me sad too. There’s no joy in watching the US slide into an authoritarian plutocracy. I wish I could even qualify that by saying “creeping” authoritarianism, but I can’t.

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        Comment by persedeplume — December 22, 2016 @ 11:57 am | Reply

        • C’est la vie! I agree (alliteratively)!

          On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — December 22, 2016 @ 12:14 pm | Reply

  4. I think the idea was that the Electoral College electors are the needed to prevent a demagogue and/or tyrant from becoming president even after winning the popular vote, but this year’s election showed that the system is not working – not only a demagogue/tyrant won with a minority of vote, the Electoral College happily rubber-stamped his victory.

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    Comment by List of X — December 22, 2016 @ 4:48 pm | Reply

    • You summed it up perfectly, LoX!

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      Comment by Nan — December 22, 2016 @ 4:57 pm | Reply

    • If the neoliberal queen had been coronate after full scale corruption screwed Sanders out of the nomination would we be talking about a new despot in power, a puppet of Wall street, a Kissengeresque diplomate? I think not. And that is the problem. Our political system is no longer capable of giving us candidates that are not the hand servants of the Oligarchy. Obsesding on the electoral college is, in my mind, a futile distraction.

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      Comment by Zachary — December 22, 2016 @ 4:57 pm | Reply

      • Good point … and if we can’t fix the small things?

        On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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        Comment by Steve Ruis — December 22, 2016 @ 9:49 pm | Reply

      • Out political system heavily favors the hand servants of the oligarchy, but this election showed that this is not always the case: not only Sanders – a guy with zero name recognition before 2015 – came reasonably close to winning the Democratic nomination, but even Donald Trump isn’t exactly a hand puppet of the oligarchy – the only people he serves is himself and maybe Vladimir Putin.
        Interestingly, the electoral college does somewhat moderate the influence of big money – right now, a candidate needs hundreds of millions to compete in 5-10 swing states. Imagine how much more money it would take to compete for the popular vote in all 50 states.

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        Comment by List of X — December 23, 2016 @ 4:58 pm | Reply

        • Agreed … though Trump, as an outsider, may end up a good friend of the Oligarchy in a way Sanders was not.

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          Comment by Zachary — December 23, 2016 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

        • We’ll have to see how much he serves the oligarchs. The repeal of Obamacare wouldn’t be worth the trouble were it not paid for by tax cuts on the rich. Repeal Obamacare and you repeal those taxes.

          On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — December 23, 2016 @ 9:22 pm | Reply


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