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December 11, 2016

CIA Concludes Russian Interference Aimed To Elect Trump

The above is the exact title of an NPR report. According to that report the substance of the “Russian interference” is that the Russians hacked both the GOP and Democratic National Committee websites and that people “associated” with the Russian government released hacked emails of the DNC to Wikileaks.

I do not accept these assertions at face value as the sources are untrustworthy, but if more details were provided there might be something here. One claim was that nothing from the GOP website was released by “the Russians.”

The whole purpose of Wikileaks is to provide a place to “leak” information that cannot be traced back to you, even by Wikileaks itself, so it will be interesting to find out how we learned that the Russian government was responsible for things being leaked to Wikileaks.

Plus, how much actual sensitive, aka non-gossipy, information would any national committee put up on its website or associated emails when everyone knows that most sites are eminently hackable. My guess is most of the “sensitive” emails include “he said, she said” gossip that might prove embarrassing to the gossiper, but could hardly be substantive.

And, I have yet to hear anyone claim that they voted for Trump because of those “damning DNC emails.” Any quantitative assessment of the effect of the “Russian tampering” would have to be incredible small, unless, gee, they aren’t telling us everything or, just maybe, they are making this shit up.



  1. Juan Cole had a good piece on this that also affirms the Russians didn’t cost the Democrats their loss.

    No, America, it wasn’t Russia: You did it to Yourself”


    Comment by lbwoodgate — December 11, 2016 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  2. “I have yet to hear anyone claim that they voted for Trump because of those “damning DNC emails.”

    You’re undoubtedly correct. But can you say the email fiasco didn’t play a part in the election of tRump? According to what I read and heard, the poll figures changed considerably after he focused in on this during his rallies.

    As to validated proof that the Russians played a role? I guess time will tell.


    Comment by Nan — December 11, 2016 @ 12:26 pm | Reply

  3. It could be that no one voted for Trump because of the DNC email leaks. But it could be that these leaks contributed to some voters – who were previously leaning towards Clinton – deciding to stay home instead or vote for a third party candidate.
    And I’m not an expert in information security, but since some hackers do get caught, it’s clear that there are ways to identify someone who hacked a system.


    Comment by List of X — December 11, 2016 @ 9:18 pm | Reply

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