Class Warfare Blog

November 16, 2016

Wheeee, The People

While the post mortems on the 2016 general election are flying fast and furious, concentrating on the obvious “why” of the presidential election has escaped most of the talking heads. One commenter, though, summed it up cleanly in an extended essay in The Guardian about a visit to Muncie, IN (Why Trump Took Middle America by Gary Younge):

“What I heard over and over again in the city, in many different ways – in matters national and local, political and personal – was ordinary people feeling that they were not getting a fair shake. That the news they get is tainted, that politicians are lining their own pockets and getting away with it; that nobody in power really cares about them and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.”

Well, there was something We, The People could do about it. We elected the biggest monkey wrench that could be thrown into the gears of a government that for a long, long time hasn’t bothered to serve The People.

“Kill them all and let God sort them out.” (A probably apocryphal quotation from the First Crusade)



  1. I agree, and I’m also not buying the argument that simply because people voted for Trump they are automatically racist and misogynistic. Take Trump and his attitude on sexual assault, and imagine if we had an election between Bill Clinton and Ted Cruz, and a similar leaked tape came out about Bill Clinton in addition to all of his own existing allegations about his sexual assaults and extramarital affairs which make such a leaked tape quite plausible – how many of those arguing that Trump supporters are all enablers of sexual assault would have switched their vote to Ted Cruz?
    Not many.
    Most would themselves be making justifications that these accusers are liars, or it’s just all locker room talk, or that they are against sexual assault, but it all has no bearing on his fitness to be president, and besides, it’s either him or Ted Cruz.
    And it’s not like the people voting for Hillary Clinton are 100% happy with the choices she made and actions she took, either.


    Comment by List of X — November 16, 2016 @ 12:39 pm | Reply

    • I wish we had a system more like Ireland’s, where we don’t just reduce everything to a choice between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber.

      On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 16, 2016 @ 1:07 pm | Reply

      • You’ve been reading Robert Nielsen’s blog, haven’t you? 🙂


        Comment by List of X — November 17, 2016 @ 11:54 pm | Reply

        • Of course, all smart people do. ;o)

          On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



          Comment by Steve Ruis — November 18, 2016 @ 7:22 am | Reply

  2. “Kill them all. God will recognize his own.” Some sources say the alleged quote was “Kill them all, for the Lord knows his own” or as “Kill them all. The Lord knows his own.”
    Ah yes, a wonderful example of Christian charity. It appears that was a sect of Christians called the Cathars. They rejected the authority of the Pope and other key aspects of Catholicism, so they were deemed heretics by the Catholic Church. In the FRENCH town of Beziers a Papal Army appeared to suppress the heretics. On July 22, 1209, they were celebrating the annual Feast of Mary Magdalene together, a religious holiday observed by various Christian religions. The town fathers refused to give them up so the Catholic Army attacked. The army was led by Simon de Montfort, a French nobleman highly motivated by the Pope’s promise that he could keep the land of any heretics he killed. Any guesses as to the result? The official representative of the Pope Arnaud Amalric was the source of the supposed quote when asked how they could distinguish between French Catholics and French Cathars. De Montfort’s army killed virtually every man, woman and child in the town — estimated to be as many as 20,000 people and burned Beziers to the ground. Nice guy!


    Comment by Holding the Line in Florida — November 16, 2016 @ 2:46 pm | Reply

    • There was a papal investigation of the Cathars prior to the crusade and the Vatican’s emissaries found them to be among the most pious and peaceful of peoples. An obvious threat to the Church’s autonomy.

      On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 17, 2016 @ 11:25 am | Reply

      • Damn Right!


        Comment by Holding the Line in Florida — November 18, 2016 @ 12:44 pm | Reply

  3. Well yeah, the system has been broken for a long time. But damn! Putting Trump in there to fix it is akin to putting the fox in charge of the chicken coop.

    Trump sees no downtrodden masses. He only sees dollar signs.


    Comment by shelldigger — November 16, 2016 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

    • Well, things might get so bad the Millennials rise up and get involved. Some think that the old system has to fail badly before people recognize a major change is needed. This might be according to plan. I wonder how Trump is going to explain that he went to DC to “drain the swamp” by employing all of the alligators who already lived there. I really want to see what he will *do *before I respond. We’ve had too much talk that was dead wrong already. It seems that even with the 24-hr news cycle, people are spending a great deal of time predicting what will happen instead of using that time to report on what is happening.

      On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:



      Comment by Steve Ruis — November 17, 2016 @ 11:29 am | Reply

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