Class Warfare Blog

May 23, 2016

The “Truth” Behind the Promise of Eternal Life

Many evangelical Christians are constantly holding out the promise of “eternal life” if one just accepts their Lord, Jesus Christ, as your Lord and Savior. But what does this mean, exactly?

According to their beliefs, they are being more than a little duplicitous. They believe that each human being possesses an “immortal soul” that is the true “us.” When we die, our soul “continues” so that, according to their scriptures, we all “live forever.” That is unless the word immortal has a new definition.

So, if we aren’t being saved from death (everybody dies), what are we being saved from? According to the New Testament, we would be being saved from an eternity of excruciating torture. Those with faith in the One True Religion go to a place that is labeled a paradise, but is not described in much detail. No mention is made of having meaningful work to do or hobbies or whether we would still need to eat, etc. More than a little detail is provided for the torture palace, Hell.

So, “we,” aka our immortal souls, all live forever, so why are we promised “eternal life?” This sounds like one of those promises one gets from the various shopping channels: We guarantee our knives will cut things! Any knife that could not cut things could hardly be called a knife, I think. So, check that box as “done.”

So, we are promised something they insist we all already have. The obfuscation is they are really promising freedom from Hell, but they don’t want to mention Hell in their pitches to those they would convert. If you broach that topic, you end up with a very bad scenario. For example:
Q “Who created Hell?”
A “God did.”
Q “Who ordained we would go there if we didn’t get right with your Christian god?”
A “God did.”
WTF?

The scriptures of evangelicals are rife with contradictions and confusions (why else would apologists be needed?) and one thing that pops up is you can find scripture that claims that whether or not you will be “saved” was determined, by their god, before you were born, in which case it hardly matters what you are going to do. In fact, the numbers of people so claimed to be “pre-saved” is quite small, so their god is consigning 99+% of us to eternal torture and there is nothing we can do about it.

Nice religion.

Their basic messages are: “Do as we say or burn in Hell.” and “Meh, do as we say and you’ll probably burn anyway.”

And this is offered as “a message of hope.”

And they say that politicians invented “spin,” sheesh!

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7 Comments »

  1. ” … and one thing that pops up is you can find scripture” — I was expecting you to finish this with “to justify anything you want.” 😉

    As for the “immortal soul” — this is a belief (like many others) stolen from the Egyptians, adopted by the Greeks (and popularized by Plato), and then further promoted by the early church theologians. It is not biblical.

    Comment by Nan — May 23, 2016 @ 11:44 am | Reply

    • It wasn’t invented by Biblical authors, it was just embraced as part of their power structure. All power structures are designed to give power over others by the weilder of the structure. I have written about how I think this happened and it seems quite natural, that is not supernatural.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — May 23, 2016 @ 11:50 am | Reply

  2. What’s a soul made from? Can it be destroyed?

    Comment by john zande — May 23, 2016 @ 1:46 pm | Reply

    • Impervium? Adamantium? What was the element from Avatar? Unobtanium! Or maybe Brightandshinium or Wishfulthinkium?

      If souls are eternal, then they could not be destroyed, which is why they must be of the “spirit world” whatever the heck that is.

      There were several attempts to weigh bodies just before and after death and a very tiny weight loss was measured (I guess from the air exhaled from the body in excess of normal tidal amounts) and that was touted as evidence for the soul. But if it has weight, it is material and not entirely spiritual which causes create problems with their theory. I really wonder *what *these people are thinking. I already know *how *they are thinking and that would be poorly.

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      Comment by Steve Ruis — May 23, 2016 @ 2:56 pm | Reply

      • I’m going for Brightandshinium 🙂

        Comment by john zande — May 23, 2016 @ 3:25 pm | Reply

        • Oh, I can see your aura from here … it is so bright!

          I lived in Marin County, CA for several years (the woo-woo capital of California–do you know “woo-woo”?). I decided to see if I could figure out what all of the practitioners of the supernatural arts were saying and while they were using words I knew (energy, levels, spirit, planes, etc.) they were clearly meaning something other than any of the dictionary definitions I was familiar with. I actually got to witness two people make up a piece of authentic spiritual bullshit (that’s bullshite to you, I believe). It involved something I witnesses and was present for and the two others stood there and in a classic bonding exercised took the square peg of that event and jammed it into a round hole of woo-woo.

          It was similar to two strangers finding they had the love of a sports team in common and they bonded over sharing memories and experiences, but in this case they both were bullshit artists who made up the events they claimed to see. (Americans are good at this. Over 200,000 people claimed to be present the night Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth’s home run record, which was pretty amazing as the stadium only held 50,000-60,000 people.

          Brightandshinium it is!

          On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Class Warfare Blog wrote:

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          Comment by Steve Ruis — May 23, 2016 @ 6:28 pm | Reply

  3. At some point you just have to figure that some people like the bags over their heads. They protect them from seeing/hearing/reading things that might otherwise connect them to reality.

    It’s way more fun in make believe land. (apparently)

    Comment by shelldigger — May 24, 2016 @ 5:49 am | Reply


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