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November 1, 2013

Psst … Pass It On!

I just read an essay about climate change deniers and the approach most “science types,” including me, take to refute them. We science types assume that this is a scientific debate and that what is in dispute are the facts or the interpretation of the facts. The essayist argued instead that the vast majority of deniers are quite unfamiliar with the facts and are even more unfamiliar with the interpretations. Instead they are operating in a world in which they are receiving a meme (from politicians, Fox (sic) News, etc.) that they are being fooled by people with an axe to grind. Socially, there is little cost in believing such memes because if they are wrong, well those individuals could really do nothing about solving that problem anyway, but if one confronts ones peers about the meme, they could lose social standing or even contact with their group.

Even as a science type, this sounds like a quite valid argument to me, so in an attempt to shift the debate I offer the following:

Psst, You Are Being Manipulated, Pass It On
You’ve all heard about climate change and are wondering whether or not it is real. I am writing this to confirm that you are being manipulated, used as a pawn in this debate.

On one side of the debate are all of those scientists who make a sort of okay living doing science on the atmosphere. Apparently 98% of them are in agreement that we all are part of the problem. On the other side are a group of very rich individuals and corporations that make money, very large amounts of money, creating carbon based pollution that is causing the problem.

Now, I know you are being manipulated, but I am not sure by whom: do you think it is the bunch of scientists from all over the world or a bunch of rich people and corporations who don’t want to pay for changes in the way they do business.

Which do you think it is?

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6 Comments »

  1. You do know, of course, that this “debate” is only really going on in America. Unfortunately, i have to add a disclaimer here: the new Australian PM (let’s just call him Mr. Asshole) is a climate change denier. Why is he? Because the coal industry (Oz is the worlds largest exporter) really don’t like the Carbon Tax imposed by the last government.

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    Comment by john zande — November 1, 2013 @ 8:38 am | Reply

    • Wow, Oz got a carbon tax? Cool! (Aussie, aussie, aussie, oy, oy, oy!) Conservatives here came up with the idea of a market for carbon pollution (they could buy the ability to pollute from others who didn’t feel the need to) which is a step forward … until they found out Obama was in favor of it and now they are against it. I think Obama needs to shut up or stay he is for things he is against so that the conservatives will support them.

      And, the golden rule of politics (Follow the money. Them’s what has the gold makes the rules. etc.) applies here. The U.S. has the most wealth concentrated in the fewest hands, so where else would climate change denial be most prominent?

      PS We’ve moved (again)! Just change the Apt # from 28C to 17A (110 feet down and about 30 feet east). Effective Date: October 1, 2013

      *Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.* ************** Steve Ruis

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      Comment by stephenpruis — November 1, 2013 @ 9:09 am | Reply

  2. Um, I think you’re trying to use another thing that doesn’t go well with the climate-denier crowd: logic.

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    Comment by List of X — November 1, 2013 @ 9:05 am | Reply

    • No, I am using suspicion and giving them a simple dichotomy: pointy-headed intellectualls over here and filthy rich bastards over there: which is more likely to try to trick you? Its like CNN: Good Idea or Bad Idea? Turn everything into a simple good vs. bad choice.

      PS We’ve moved (again)! Just change the Apt # from 28C to 17A (110 feet down and about 30 feet east). Effective Date: October 1, 2013

      *Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.* ************** Steve Ruis

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      Comment by stephenpruis — November 1, 2013 @ 9:13 am | Reply

      • I would think that deniers despise pointy-headed intellectuals way more than filthy rich bastards. At least most of them want to BE the filthy rich bastards.

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        Comment by List of X — November 1, 2013 @ 9:17 am | Reply

        • Point to Mr. X .

          PS We’ve moved (again)! Just change the Apt # from 28C to 17A (110 feet down and about 30 feet east). Effective Date: October 1, 2013

          *Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.* ************** Steve Ruis

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          Comment by stephenpruis — November 1, 2013 @ 9:22 am | Reply


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