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July 22, 2013

An Addendum to “Creationism . . .In Ireland . . . Oh, My!”

In Mr. Givans’ quotation (see previous post) he referred to us science types giving short shrift to “alternative theories to evolution.” This is a meme promulgated by creationists by this they mean “Creationism.” The only problem is that there are no alternative theories to evolution. There are a number of variants to how some believe evolution to play out, but there are no alternative theories, so it is impossible to give them short shrift. They just tried to slip that lie into another argument (be fair; teach all the theories) hoping you wouldn’t notice the big lie in the smaller statement.

And people, Creationism is not a theory. Creationism is that God created the planet exactly as it was 6010 years ago (with all of the buried fossils, ruins of older civilizations, etc.). This is no different from saying that fairies did the same or that aliens of some advanced species did the same. And, if it were true, then it could just as well happened 5000 years ago, 100,000 years ago, or yesterday and we would have no way to tell this. So, how is this a theory? What in Nature points to this interpretation? (Absolutely nothing in case you didn’t know.)

Nature, otherwise known as “God’s creation” by these folks, points to a 4+ billion year old planet born in a universe 10 billion years old at the birth. Why would any god or alien or fairy think that it would be a good idea to leave such contrary clues to be found? Why wouldn’t they leave clues telling us the world is 6000 years old? Why would they want to delude us and in so doing undermine God’s own words?

And since God’s creation is the only reliable record of God’s actions, why would a book written 3000 years after the event, written by somebody with no reputation for truth telling, and delivered to a civilization that was far from the most advanced on the planet at the time be held up as superior to what your lying eyes can tell you?

Just askin’.



  1. True story, it was only when i started messing around on Fox (cough) News message boards (when they still had open comments) that i discovered some people actually believed in creationism. This was in 2008. At first i thought it was a joke. I figured some of the more liberal posters were just messing with the Christian right. Non one could honestly believe that…. could they? Slowly, but surely, i realised it wasn’t a joke. Never, and i man never had i heard of such foolishness.

    Comment by john zande — July 22, 2013 @ 4:10 pm | Reply

    • It was a response in this country called the Great Awakening (of religious fervor) accompanied by tent meeting revivals, etc. All in response to the godless atheistic founding fathers apparently.

      And it is a sad American phenonomenon and because we have allowed a great many pea-brains to accumulate a great deal too much wealth, they are sponsoring an exportation of said nonsense.

      Comment by stephenpruis — July 22, 2013 @ 9:13 pm | Reply

      • Don’t I know it. Your evangelicals are causing a shitstorm down here, eating into the typically passive (politically-impotent) catholic pie. Saw the stats for the next general election and a hardcore clappy is leading.

        Comment by john zande — July 23, 2013 @ 5:53 am | Reply

        • Christianity was a religion for the downtrodden: the weak, the poor, women. The more establishment a sect became, the more they had to protect and the more conservative and supportive of the government they became. Many of the beginning Jesus cults were supportive of the government because they could have been so easily wiped out. The ones in the middle are the “liberation theology” types, the onnes politically active, etc. (The only ones worth a damn because they are working for the poor, the downtrodden, etc.

          Comment by stephenpruis — July 23, 2013 @ 7:23 am | Reply

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