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December 28, 2012

How Gullible Do They Think We Are?

Filed under: History,Politics,Religion — Steve Ruis @ 8:24 am
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There is a considerable faction in the scholarly community that believe that Jesus is an invented character, a character designed to carry a message in “wisdom literature.” For other examples, consider the Greek gods, the Roman gods, any god literature you don’t believe is true. For most believers, though, Jesus is considered to be real.  A local church is providing evidence for that reality. According to the today’s Chicago Tribune:

On Sunday, Holy Family Church — which survived the Great Chicago Fire in 1871 and near-demolition more than a century later — will formally unveil three relics that the church says are more than 2,000 years old. A neighboring church donated the Vatican-approved artifacts, which are said to be crumb-size fragments from the manger where Jesus Christ was born, the cloak of St. Joseph and the veil of the Virgin Mary.”


Now, let’s put this in context. Let’s say you notice on eBay that a pair of jeans owned and worn by your grandmother are for sale. Amazing. How would someone prove that these were indeed your grandmother’s jeans? They could have been given to a friend or donated to charity and someone could have acquired them that way. But why would they save them? Why would the new owner preserve them? Then consider that there is a hefty market in fake jeans supposedly owned or worn by your grandmother. Then consider that this all happened 2000 years ago . . . when there was scant physical documentation of anything and everything tended to be communicated by word of mouth. Huh.

Even according to the Bible, Mary and Joseph were dead before the gospels were written. Presumably they would have continued to wear their clothes after Jesus’s crucifixion as nobody would have suggested that they preserve perfectly useable clothes. Jesus was not declared a god until centuries later, so Mary could not be the Mother of God until then. And why would anybody break off a piece of a manger (a device to feed animals), simply because a baby was supposedly placed in it for a couple of days? Why weren’t the clothes of the saintly James the Just, the “Brother of God,” preserved? He was more venerated at the time than Joseph or Mary. Could it be because the Church doesn’t want James’s message reinforced that no relics of his have been “found?”

I’d say that, given the vested interests of the certifying agency, that these “relics” have about 0% chance of being authentic. The Catholic Church has certified all kinds of things including the Shroud of Turin, which isn’t even old enough to have been a burial shroud 2000 years ago.

The real interests are exposed in the following quote from the same article:

The fragments ‘help us remember that these were real people,’ Boland said. ‘They really lived. They influenced their culture and their society, and they made a contribution that we’re still benefiting from many, many years later.’”

The true motivation is that if Jesus weren’t a real person, if he instead were an invention of clerics to tell a tale, his “message” would be blown completely out of the water. And all of the scams perpetrated delivering that message would dry up: no more tithes, no more offering plates, no more political clout, etc.

And we give these charlatans huge tax deferments, even on their profit making enterprises. Not even Italy is continuing to do that any more.

“Hurry, hurry, this way to the Giant Egress.” (A sign and call by P.T. Barnum to get people out of his tent to make room for more paying customers.)



  1. Ah, the holy relics. Gotta’ love em! Not one but four Holy Grail’s in Europe, and one in Ethiopia. Go figure! People are so utterly hopeless sometimes.


    Comment by john zande — December 28, 2012 @ 11:31 am | Reply

    • Hi, John,

      This is why we need to teach things to schools kids like “confirmation bias” and creative thinking, maybe a little logic, too. This is akin to the pancake with the image of the Virgin Mary on it which sold for quite some money recently. Could gods or god-like beings be reduced to communicating via pancakes? If so, IHOP is going to apply for tax-exempt status, I’ll bet.

      I hope your new year is happy and prosperous,



      Comment by stephenpruis — December 28, 2012 @ 12:15 pm | Reply

      • Right back at you, Steve! Finding your blog was one of those very pleasant surprises, the type we should all have more of 🙂


        Comment by john zande — December 28, 2012 @ 2:17 pm | Reply

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